My cousin is considering going to either Reed College in Oregon or New
York University in NYC.  I would like to get baseline information
about each option in order to help advise him on his decision.  His
current interests are journalism and theater, but will also likely
pursue a degree or dual major that will allow him to get a more
traditionally gainful employment.

I am looking for the kind of information that would allow one to
formulate a case for going to one shcool or the other.  I do not want
to present a case for either one -- just to get a bunch of relevant
info together.

I am looking for any information that you, as a professional
researcher, would find important or interesting, including but not
limited to:

- Relevant stats on Reed and NYU (# students, GPA, breakdown by
depatrment / major, acclaimed departments, faculty ratios, nobel
laureats on staff, etc - the kind of things you would want to know
about a school before picking it).

- Summary of or links to qualitative / reviews / feedback / commentary
info on each school.

- Comparison of post-graduate employment & salaries if available

- Comparison of basic demographics and industries in Portland vs NYC

- For each city, number of: theaters, publishers, newspapers (or similar info).

- Anything else you think would be interesting or helpful.

Thank you, Justin

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Clarification of Question by justins-ga on 03 Apr 2005 10:08 PDT

ps: sorry for all the typos.

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Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 03 Apr 2005 12:13 PDT

Just to make sure we're on the right page here:

NYU has a student body of almost 40,000; Reed College has just over 1,000.


It's hard to imagine a head to head comparison when the schools are so
very different in size, not to mention locale and academic
orientation.


Are you quite certain these are the two schools you want to have compared?


pafalafa-ga

Hello justins-ga,

I?ve collected information to help you answer all the questions you
have about NYU and Reed College. The schools are very different and
comparing them is like comparing apples and oranges. So, does your
cousin prefer ?apples? or ?oranges?? I suggest that you or your cousin
develop a list of criteria for evaluating colleges and majors and then
review what each school has to offer. The links I?ve collected will
help you with getting started. I?ve grouped the links for each school
and I?ve also included a collection of Web sites dedicated to
evaluating colleges. These will help you continue your explorations.

Best wishes to your cousin for a satisfying and happy college experience.

~ czh ~


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REED COLLEGE
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http://web.reed.edu/
Reed College, Portland, Oregon

***** The college has a very comprehensive Web page and most of the
information you?re looking for is available there.

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http://web.reed.edu/apply/majors_at_reed.html
Majors and Degrees

Reed offers 22 departmentally based majors, which are listed by
academic division (click on the title to learn more about that
division, or select the major to view the department homepage or
description from the college catalog). In addition, students may
choose from 12 interdisciplinary majors and 6 dual degree programs, or
may work with their adviser to design an alternate interdisciplinary
major.

***** Reed offers a degree in Theater but not in Journalism.

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http://academic.reed.edu/theatre/Academics/DepartinfoAcademics.html
The Theatre Program at Reed College


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REED COLLEGE ? STATISTICS
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http://administration.reed.edu/news/news.taf?ID=33565
Reed College admits Class of 2009 
For the third year in a row, the college receives a record number of
applications, over a quarter of which came from minority students
PORTLAND, OR (March 31, 2005) - Reed College, one of the nation's
pre-eminent institutions of the liberal arts and sciences , has
admitted its class of 2009. The 2,643 applications represent a new
record for the college, breaking the previous record of 2,483 it set
last year. The rise, a 6.4% increase from last year's total and nearly
a 53% increase since 2001, means that the college has seen record
numbers of applications for three consecutive years. The record number
also includes 209 applicants for Reed via the college's early decision
options.

Class of 2009 Admissions ? ethnic profile
 -- 1,173 Total admitted
 -- 311 Self-identified ethnic minority
 -- 742 Caucasian
 -- 120 Declined to state

Class of 2009 Admissions ?geographic diversity
 -- 47 states and District of Columbia
 -- 315 California
 -- 46 international students from 36 countries

Class of 2009 Admissions ? test scores/grades
 -- Average SAT (1408)
 -- Average ACT (31)
 -- Average GPA (3.974)
 -- 90% in top 20% of class
 -- 71.8% in top 10%
 -- 104 (16.6%) class valedictorian

Reed College ? Degrees Offered
 -- BA in 22 majors
 -- Numerous interdisciplinary fields
 -- MA in liberal studies

Reed College ? Honors
 -- 1,360 total enrollment
 -- 31 Rhodes Scholars (highest for any liberal arts college)
 -- 50+ Fulbright Scholars
 -- 60+ Watson Fellows
 -- 2 MacArthur (?Genius?) Awards
 -- 3rd in percentage of graduates to earn PhDs in all disciplines 
 -- 1st in percentage of biology graduates earning PhDs

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http://web.reed.edu/ir/
Institutional Research

Students
 -- Admission statistics, high school rankings, and SATs
 -- Enrollment
 -- Financial aid $$$
 -- Tuition and fees
 -- Where do Reedies come from?

Outcomes
 -- Awards and distinctions
 -- Baccalaureate degrees by department
 -- Life after Reed
 -- Medical School acceptance rate
 -- PhD productivity
 -- Senior survey results

Other
 -- Campus facilities
 -- Organizational chart of Reed College
 -- Revenues, expenditures, and endowment
 -- Reed College Common Data Set (CDS)

***** This site offers links to detailed statistics for Student,
Outcomes and Other. There is lots of detailed information for your
question about ?relevant stats?.

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http://web.reed.edu/apply/college_rankings.html
College Rankings

Since 1995 Reed College has refused to participate in the U.S. News
and World Report "best colleges" rankings. Several times Reed's stance
on the rankings has put the college in the national spotlight, most
prominently in a Rolling Stone magazine article that raised serious
concerns about the U.S. News best colleges issue.

Reed does participate in several other well-established college guides
that do not assign numerical rankings to institutions, including
Barron's, the Fiske Guide to Colleges, Peterson's, Colleges that
Change Lives, Newsweek's College Guide, and the College Board's
College Handbook. Each of these guides attempts to describe more fully
the experience, student culture, and academic environment at different
schools. Consistent with Reed's non-participation in U.S. News
rankings, the college also does not participate in Money magazine's
college-ranking issue.


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REED COLLEGE ? COMMENTARIES AND REVIEWS
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http://www.reediejournals.com/
Reedie Journals

Welcome to a virtual community of Reedies. Have you ever wondered what
that quiet guy in class must be thinking, or what kind of movies one
of your acquaintances likes? Ever wondered what goes through the
psyche of the Reed community? Now you can find out. Excited? So am I.
All it takes is to write your thoughts. Everyone counts, so join now!

My idea is to give every current student at Reed College a blog... an
open atmosphere where they can express themselves and their thoughts
to the world. Not everybody will want to participate, but even if you
don't write in a public journal, they sure are fun to read.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reed_College
Reed College
Contents 
1 History
2 Distinguishing features
2.1 Unofficial mottos and folklore
3 Reed's reputation
4 Notable alumni
5 Paideia
6 Renn Fayre
7 External links

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http://www.ctcl.com/why_ctcl_college.html
http://www.ctcl.com/reed_college.html
Colleges That Change Lives

"These schools share two essential elements: a familial sense of
communal enterprise that gets students heavily involved in cooperative
rather than competitive learning, and a faculty of scholars devoted to
helping young people develop their powers, mentors who often become
their valued friends."

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http://news.surfwax.com/colleges/files/Reed_College.html
News & Articles on Reed College 



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NEW YORK UNIVERSITY (NYU)
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http://www.nyu.edu/
http://www.nyu.edu/about.nyu
New York University

***** The NYU website is comprehensive and provides information about
all of the topics in your question.

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http://admissions.nyu.edu/
Is NYU Right for You?

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http://about.tisch.nyu.edu/object/performingArts_intro.html
The Institute of Performing Arts comprises six departments and
programs whose focus is live performance.

The Department of Drama offers a four-year undergraduate program
leading to the B.F.A.  The program has been designed to include all of
the traditional components of conservatory training and theatre study
while taking full advantage of the liberal arts resources of New York
University and the cultural resources of New York City.

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http://drama.tisch.nyu.edu/page/home.html
Drama

The program in drama places equal emphasis on rigorous conservatory
training and comprehensive theatre study in the most exciting and
creative city in the world: New York.

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http://journalism.nyu.edu/index.html
Journalism at NYU

Undergraduate Study
The Department offers a major in Journalism with concentrations in
writing and reporting (print or broadcast), or media analysis and
criticism. Here's an overview, some FAQs, and requirements.



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NEW YORK UNIVERSITY (NYU) ? STATISTICS
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http://www.nyu.edu/ir/factbook.php
Office of Institutional Research and Program Evaluation

Fact Book

Fast Facts
The fast facts sheets highlight annual information about enrollment,
admissions, degrees conferred, graduation and retention rates, and
employee demographics.
Demographic Tables
The demographic tables present detailed information, by academic year,
for student enrollment, degrees conferred, employees, and faculty. The
tables present the University's official figures as reported to the US
Department of Education.

Common Data Set
The Common Data Set is an informational report that adheres to a
standard of definitions collectively recognized and used nationwide by
higher education institutions and organizations. The report focuses
primarily on undergraduate data and includes sections on enrollment,
graduation rates, retention, freshman admission, transfer admission,
academic study options, library collections, student life, expenses,
financial aid, instructional faculty, class size, and degrees
conferred.

Trend Reports
The Trend Reports present information for a period of several years,
allowing for comparisons over time. They consolidate the official
figures from the annual demographic tables. The reports present
information for degrees conferred, enrollment, employees, faculty, and
tuition. Note: this information is accessible only to authorized NYU
faculty and administrators.

***** These pages willl provide you with most of the statistical
information you?re looking for about NYU.

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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/local/story/292916p-250747c.html
Poll: NYU top dream school 

If only in their dreams, college student applicants across the country
picked New York University as their ideal school to get into, a new
survey says.

NYU topped Harvard, Stanford, Yale, and Princeton in the annual "Dream
Colleges" ratings by Princeton Review, a test-preparation and
admissions service.



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NEW YORK UNIVERSITY (NYU) ? COMMENTARIES AND REVIEWS
====================================================

http://www.virtuallyadvising.com/qa/uchoice20011002mh.html
What are the top four-year schools with journalism degrees?

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http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?BRD=1840&dept_id=112392&newsid=7426276&PAG=461&rfi=9
Do N.Y.U. students consider themselves Villagers?

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http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/archive/index.php/t-66.html
B.A. vs. B.F.A for theater major predicament!

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http://www.educationupdate.com/archives/2004/november/html/cov-interviewwithNYY.html
Interview with NYU Theater Chair Kevin Kuhlke

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http://www.seasidemusictheater.org/2302_Content.html
So you want to major in theater?

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5626574/site/newsweek/
America's 25 Hot Schools

HOTTEST FOR CITY LOVERS 
New York University, New York, N.Y.
The erstwhile TV show "Felicity" helped make NYU a TV star, but in
2004-05 the campus will be home to some real-life celebrities: the
Olsen twins, Mary-Kate and Ashley. Not that NYU needs extra star
power. Even after September 11, the school continued to draw
applications from more than 17,000 talented students. One of the top
attractions is the Tisch School of the Arts, which nurtures future
actors, dancers and screenwriters. The business school is also highly
rated, and students can take advantage of internships on Wall Street,
just a subway ride away. Although NYU doesn't have a campus in the
traditional sense (the buildings are scattered throughout Greenwich
Village), few students complain. Instead of a single grassy quad,
they've got a whole city to explore.



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COLLEGE RATINGS AND PROFILES
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http://www.collegeprowler.com/college_rankings.asp
College Guide Written For Students By Students

College Rankings are in!
Students have voted and the results are in. Each of the 100 guides
ranks 20 aspects of campus life that determine the quality of your
college experience. Click on a category below to see how different
schools stack up.

***** Both Reed and NYU are included in these ratings of top 200 schools.

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http://www.princetonreview.com/home.asp
The Princeton Review offers a variety of products and services for a
variety of audiences:

http://www.princetonreview.com/college/research/profiles/generalinfo.asp?listing=1023568&LTID=1
Reed College

http://www.princetonreview.com/college/research/profiles/schoolsays.asp?category=1&listing=1022976&LTID=1&intbucketid=
New York University

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http://www.collegeboard.com/about/index.html
The College Board is a not-for-profit membership association whose
mission is to connect students to college success and opportunity.
Founded in 1900, the association is composed of more than 4,700
schools, colleges, universities, and other educational organizations.
Each year, the College Board serves over three and a half million
students and their parents, 23,000 high schools, and 3,500 colleges
through major programs and services in college admissions, guidance,
assessment, financial aid, enrollment, and teaching and learning.
Among its best-known programs are the SAT, the PSAT/NMSQT®, and the
Advanced Placement Program®(AP). The College Board is committed to the
principles of excellence and equity, and that commitment is embodied
in all of its programs, services, activities, and concerns.


http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?collegeId=3928
Reed College

http://apps.collegeboard.com/search/CollegeDetail.jsp?match=true&collegeId=3186&type=qfs&word=new%20york%20university
New York University

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http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=Everything%20University
Everything University

All you ever needed, wanted and didn't want to know about
Everything--your favorite collaboratively filtered database!!

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=Reed%20College
Reed College

http://www.everything2.com/index.pl
New York University

***** Opinionated reviews of these schools.

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http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/rankindex_brief.php
America's Best Colleges 2005
In addition to college rankings, we offer a detailed school directory,
interactive tools, a step-by-step college admissions guide, articles,
and more!


http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/directory/brief/drglance_3217_brief.php
Reed College

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/directory/brief/drglance_2785_brief.php
New York University

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http://www.studentsreview.com/
Answers to the questions students wished they had known to ask.
Uncensored college reviews of colleges and universities

http://www.studentsreview.com/OR/RC.html
Reed College

http://www.studentsreview.com/NY/NYU.html
New York University

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http://www.collegeconfidential.com/
College admissions, financial aid, college search - College
Confidential.com is the best web source for information on
college-related topics, from Ivy League admissions to evaluating
college rankings, from college books and book reviews to college
counseling and paying for a university education.

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/forumdisplay.php?f=74
Reed College

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/forumdisplay.php?f=293
New York University

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http://www.campusdirt.com/static/480287.cfm
New York University

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http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/majors/brief/major_9-04_brief.php
Schools by major: Journalism



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