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Subject:
HOW TO PAY CREDIT CARD AS "NEW PURCHASE" NOT AS BALANCE TRANSFER
Category: Business and Money Asked by: tv2-ga List Price: $4.50 |
Posted:
07 Apr 2005 10:50 PDT
Expires: 07 May 2005 10:50 PDT Question ID: 506346 |
A year ago I bought a "1 Year Same as Cash" entertainment center. It was $5,083 - payment is due May 15th. Today I got a(n unusual) new credit card -- 0% APR on PURCHASES for one year (!!!) and 4.9% on balance transfers. Of course I would like to pay the $5K debt as a PURCHASE, not as a balance transfer. (The $5K was assigned by the vendor to HRS revolving credit). I'm sure there's a way! Anyone know how? |
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Re: HOW TO PAY CREDIT CARD AS "NEW PURCHASE" NOT AS BALANCE TRANSFER
From: research_help-ga on 07 Apr 2005 11:50 PDT |
Believe it or not, you are not the first person to try to make a balance transfer seem like a transfer. The old trick, that I believe credit card issuers have caught on to and put an end to, is using the new card to buy a money order or traveler's checks. Use the money order or traveler's checks to pay off the old debt. However, most of the offers that separate new purchases from balance transfers will not allow "new purchases" of cash equivalents. |
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Re: HOW TO PAY CREDIT CARD AS "NEW PURCHASE" NOT AS BALANCE TRANSFER
From: macaddict0-ga on 07 Apr 2005 17:45 PDT |
Well, I can think of two options, but can't vouch for the legality of either. So I'd wait for some input from others on these ideas first. 1. Set up two paypal accounts, link each one to a different card, and send money from one to the other. You still pay 2.5%-2.9% on the transaction, but you'd pay less than the interest on the other card. 2. Buy something expensive on your new card with the intent of returning it. Then see if they'll credit the purchase back to your original card. Again both options may well be illegal, and I'm not advocating that you do either until someone here can vouch for either plan. |
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Re: HOW TO PAY CREDIT CARD AS "NEW PURCHASE" NOT AS BALANCE TRANSFER
From: vballguy-ga on 08 Apr 2005 11:29 PDT |
Credit card companies pay a fee for all transactions.... I seriously doubt a vendor would be willing to pay the fee to the purchasing credit card and then credit it somewhere else. |
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Re: HOW TO PAY CREDIT CARD AS "NEW PURCHASE" NOT AS BALANCE TRANSFER
From: tv2-ga on 08 Apr 2005 22:42 PDT |
Thanks all! Of couse the question hasn't been answered exactly, but the thoughts keep coming... here's an update on my considerations after reading the comments you've generously posted. 1. What is the (bank) trick here? Usually a card offers a low interest rate for balance transfers -- high(er) one for purchases. Basic Cub Scout theory is to open such an account and use it for the balance transfer, then shred the card... bedause any payments made go to the LOWEST interest category (usually balance transfers) first. Thus you don't ean tto put a few thousand on PURCHASES, 'cuz whatever you then have to poay each month won;t work to whitle down the higher purchases rate at all (until the bal., xfr is paid off in full). 2. But here -- we have role reversal, and I wonder if there's a catch I'm missing. PURCHASES will be 0% for a year -- balance transfers, 4.9%,and "remain on the books" until the lower, PURCHASES, rate is paid down! So - you have incentive to buy, buy, buy (0%, 1 year) to the limit AND NEVER USE IT FOR BALANCE TRANSFERS!!! :-)) 3. I don't mean anything too mnischievous here... it's just I'm totally taken, intrigued by WHY this card reverses conventional roles -- between the balance transfer rate and the Purchases rate!!! Something rotten in Denmark?? I *thought* laet year, when I made that unjustiable (plasma TV, $5,000) purchase that -- by 12 monmth;'s time, $5k wopuld be pocket cash to me -- and I was wrong - (I earn my lioving as an inventor; sometimes inventions, no matter how compelling, don't pay back for years!). This bring sme to ANOTHER point abvout the comments?suggestions received so far; the "time value of money. Let us say I havea friend with a store that takes credit cards. I assume he pays 3% off the top to the credit card compnay.... so to get $5,083 I would pay him (3% extra), or $5,235. I would pay this $150 immediately. On the other hand, if I simply let 4.99% ride for a year, startrinmg Day One of the $5,083 transfer, it would be $255 -- but over the coursde of a year. The question then becomes: 1) for this %5,083 "loan," would I choose paying $150 today over $255 a year from now? 2) Should I keep in ind any "rules" about using the credit balance (another $5,000 is available) for 0% purchases? I may be missing a very sore thumb in the miodst of this chile. :-)) Sorry to make such piddlin' stuff so complicated -- it's just that, with the GTNP of America now nearly half "financial services," I'm suspicious that - -when a bank makes an offer, it's probably been sorted through a score of actuaries who've figured out how to... well.... Thnaks once again to you generous commentors... it's a brain teaser In think. Best to all! |
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Re: HOW TO PAY CREDIT CARD AS "NEW PURCHASE" NOT AS BALANCE TRANSFER
From: tv2-ga on 08 Apr 2005 22:59 PDT |
Thanks all! Of course the question hasn't been answered exactly, but those are great thoughts coming... here, after reading the comments 3 of you have generoiusly posted, is an update on my considerations. 1. What is the (bank's) trick likely to be here? Usually a card offers a low interest rate for balance transfers -- high(er) one for purchases. Cub Scout theory is to open such an account and use it for the balance transfer, then shred the card... because any payments made go to the LOWEST interest category (usually any balance transfer) first. Thus you don't want to put a any money on PURCHASES, 'cuz whatever you pay won't work to whittle down the higher purchases rate at all (until the bal., xfr is paid off in full) in, say, 31 years! 2. But here with this new card we have ROLE REVERSAL, and I wonder if there's a catch I'm missing. PURCHASES will be 0% for a year -- balance transfers, 4.9%, AND "remain on the books" until the lower, PURCHASES, balance is paid down in full! So - you have incentive to buy, buy, buy (0%, 1 year) to the limit amd NEVER USE IT FOR BALANCE TRANSFERS!?!?!? 3. I don't mean anything larcenous, devious of even mischievious here... it's just I'm totally taken, intrigued by WHY this card "reverses conventional roles" )between the balance transfer rate and the Purchases rate)!!! Something rotten in Denmark?? Truth is, when I made that unjustiable (plasma TV, $5,000) purchase last year, I (optimist) *thought* that -- by 12 monmth's time -- $5k would be pocket cash to me. I was wrong - (I earn my living as an inventor; sometimes inventions, wvwn ones that are compelling, don't pay back for years). So, now to ANOTHER point abvout the comments/suggestions received so far; the "time value of money. Let us say I havea friend with a store that takes credit cards. I assume he pays 3% off the top to the credit card compnay.... so to get $5,083 I would pay him (3% extra), or $5,235. I would then have paid this $150 immediately. On the other hand, if I simply let 4.99% ride for a year, it would be $255 -- but over the course of a year. (And once again, I think (optimistically) that 12 months from now a $105 difference will be a pittance, while today $105 is just shy of a Kiung;'s Ranbsom! Time Value of Money! :*)) So the question becomes: 1) for this $5,083 "loan," would I choose paying $150 *today* over $255 a year from now? 2) Should I keep in mind any "rules" about using the credit balance (the credit line is $10,000, so an additional $5,000 wouyld appear to be available for 0% purchases... I may be missing a very sore thumb in the midst of this chile. :-)) Sorry to make such piddlin' stuff so complicated -- it's just that, with the GTNP of America now nearly half "financial services," I'm suspicious -- when a bank makes an offer, it's probably been sorted through a score of actuaries who've figured out how to... well... Thanks once again to you generous commentors... it's a brain teaser I think. My bounty still stands! Best to all! |
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