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Trademarking a Surname
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: monkeygeorge-ga List Price: $5.00 |
Posted:
11 Apr 2005 09:10 PDT
Expires: 11 May 2005 09:10 PDT Question ID: 507863 |
Can a person trademark their actual name? For instance, if my real name is Tom Jones and I am a singer, can the more famous Tom Jones stop me from using my actual name? |
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Re: Trademarking a Surname
From: nelson-ga on 11 Apr 2005 09:54 PDT |
You can use your name, of course, but if you try to use it for business purposes, like opening a Tom Jones Hotel, you could very well be sued. I'm sure the researchers can come up with some real-life examples. |
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Re: Trademarking a Surname
From: vballguy-ga on 11 Apr 2005 10:39 PDT |
You can trademark a name - for example Nissan Motor corp, but that will not always prevent others from using it. (For example, the Nissan.com domain is NOT owned by Nissan Motors and there has been an ongoing lawsuit for years... So the short answer is yes you can trademark a name but that does not prevent others from using it, AND you can always sue... I am not a lawyer, and my only legal advice is to see a lawyer if you have questions, but the issue typically comes down to intent.... There is a legal term called Dilution which is when a company tries to use the name recognition of another trademark for personal profit. IE if the Nissan.com site tried to sell goods or services that would be competing with nissan motor corp it might be seen as dilution. |
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Re: Trademarking a Surname
From: bozo99-ga on 11 Apr 2005 17:37 PDT |
Performers are a special case - they can be forced to pick a different name when they start performing to avoid confusion. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Benny One of the recent disputes has been over the name Prince. A trademark covers a kind of trade, not every possible use of the term. Red Label tea and Red Label whisky do not collide. |
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Re: Trademarking a Surname
From: dancethecon-ga on 11 Apr 2005 18:03 PDT |
Hi, Vballguy's advice to consult a lawyer is sound. (BTW, hi, vballguy, I'm a vballer, too. The sand season is coming soon!) From a couple businesses I've been in, I've had to learn a lot about patents and copyrights. My advice to you, monkeygeorge, is to not only see a lawyer, but to find a good lawyer who specializes in intellectual property law, which is the law of trademarks, copyrights, and patents. If you see a general lawyer, you'll probably pay to have that person to do research to get knowledge that the specialist would know off the top of the head. As part of my businesses, I've taken many intellectual property law seminars, even though I'm not an attorney. There's a cute story that might shed some light on your question. When Apple Computers was getting started, the famous Apple recording label sued the owners, claiming trademark infringement. The court's ruling was that no reasonable person would confuse a computer company with a recording label, so Apple Computers was free to use their chosen name. But there was one exception: The court ruled that Apple Computers could never enter the recording business, because then it would blur the line between the two companies. No problem, you might think, right? But consider the fact that as part of its operating system Apple Computers had to create some system sounds--many of them, in fact. Because under the letter of the law that made them a recorder, they might have gotten in trouble. Being the radicals that they were--Jobs and Wozniak--they wanted to thumb their noses at the system, especially after winning an expensive court case. They created an innocent-looking system sound that they named "Sosumi." If you sound this name out, it comes to "so sue me," and it was their little dig at the Apple recording company. The recording company never re-sued for this, BTW, because it was obvious to reasonable people that Apple Computers wasn't trying to compete with a record label by making their own records. I'm not really up on trademark law--that's what you're interested in. My understanding is that the first person who asks for a trademark and does interstate trade under that name, has the best chance of getting the trademark. I don't know about international usage (ask the specialty lawyer). My thought, though, using your example, is that you could certainly sing under the name of Tom Jones--even if there were a more famous person using it--assuming that it was your real name. Could you market souvenirs under that name? That'd be questionable, I'd think, but it'd be a good question for your lawyer. G'luck, dtc |
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Re: Trademarking a Surname
From: monkeygeorge-ga on 11 Apr 2005 18:56 PDT |
OK, maybe the "Tom Jones" name was a bad example. Closer to the mark: let's say I am named Jason Smythe (not my real name) and I am a graphic design artist who markets my services on the web. Alongs comes another guy, also name Jason Smythe, who ALSO does graphic design on the web. Can either of us force the other to stop calling himself "Jason Smythe, Graphic Artist?" |
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Re: Trademarking a Surname
From: dancethecon-ga on 12 Apr 2005 09:24 PDT |
Again, you'll get good, reliable advice from an intellectual property lawyer. Off the top of my head--and remember that I'm not a lawyer--there'd be nothing to stop either person from introducing himself as "Hi, I'm Jason Smythe, a graphic design artist." After all, that's each person's name and occupation. But if one of the two Jasons trademarked the company name of "Jason Smythe Graphic Design Arts," that would bar the other person from using the same company name. I wouldn't want to guess about any example in between. But really, spend some money and find a good lawyer who specializes in this type of law. Then you'll KNOW. :-) dtc |
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Re: Trademarking a Surname
From: owain-ga on 13 Apr 2005 04:28 PDT |
I don't think you can trademark a person's name, but possibly you could register a trademark that is a fictitious name, then change your name to it. Owain |
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