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God's word through human beings
Category: Relationships and Society > Religion Asked by: jewels22086-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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12 Apr 2005 18:52 PDT
Expires: 17 Apr 2005 22:09 PDT Question ID: 508592 |
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From: easterangel-ga on 12 Apr 2005 18:58 PDT |
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, [b] and over all the creatures that move along the ground." Genesis 1:26 |
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From: pinkfreud-ga on 12 Apr 2005 19:44 PDT |
It seems obvious that God would choose to communicate His Word through those who need it most: fallen men. If, instead of human beings, His chosen prophets had been octopi or parakeets or wolverines, would mankind have listened and understood? We seem to be quite reluctant to heed the Word of God even when it is expressed plainly in human languages. |
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From: easterangel-ga on 12 Apr 2005 19:46 PDT |
Great comment as always by my colleague Pinkfreud. And the embodiment of this Word was when God became man in Jesus Christ. |
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From: leapinglizard-ga on 12 Apr 2005 19:59 PDT |
It seems to me perfectly reasonable that God would speak through a parakeet. Why on earth not? I, at any rate, would be vastly impressed by such a phenomenon. leapinglizard |
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From: jewels22086-ga on 12 Apr 2005 21:00 PDT |
this question was asked in my intro to philosophy class and i really didn't get it. like pinkfreud pointed out, how else would God choose to communicate his word to us?? perhaps it's asking how does God use us to communicate his word to others?? |
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From: pinkfreud-ga on 12 Apr 2005 21:09 PDT |
God didn't have to communicate through human beings -- or any kind of beings. He could have just placed His message indelibly in each of our minds. He could have used "signs and wonders." He could have written His message in permanent tongues of flame across the sky in a language that all mankind could read. |
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From: guillermo-ga on 12 Apr 2005 21:42 PDT |
Within the frame that your comment put on the issue -a philosophy class-, Jewels, maybe the following thoughts were helpful. I would start by rephrasing the question this way: why a supreme being, capable to directly communicate to any living thing's mind, would chose such an erratic means as human speakers to spread his / her message? Now, what if it was all but human wisdom poetically expressed, spoken as in behalf of a beloved supreme being, but ultimately remaining human creation, whatever divine inspiration that poetic wisdom might have? I don't think your question is actually answerable. Instead, new questions feed philosophic thinking :-) Best luck! Guillermo |
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From: stressedmum-ga on 12 Apr 2005 21:52 PDT |
Hey, Leaping Lizard, I grew up genuinely thinking that the 'Holy Paraclete" was in fact the "Holy Parakeet". If only His words had been communicated more clearly to me it could have saved enormous embarrassment! |
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From: solomonsmind-ga on 13 Apr 2005 00:09 PDT |
I would add that our free will allows us to choose Him! or choose to listen to Him. This being the case He chooses to speak to us in many ways as pinkfreud had mentioned below. His creation even cries out as to His hand in our lives. John 1:1 says "In the begining was the Word, and the Word was with God. and the Word was God. He was with God in the begining. NIV Who better to speak to man about God than The Word. In other passages Jesus is refered to as the "Son of Man". If you want to convay something to people, you have to use words they will understand. May the Lord lead you, and you be wise enough to follow. |
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From: owain-ga on 13 Apr 2005 04:12 PDT |
Who says he did? Perhaps it is only the arrogance of human beings who believe they were chosen in this way that leads to the belief in god. Owain |
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From: pugwashjw-ga on 13 Apr 2005 04:23 PDT |
God has used the most efficient way. Using creatures that think and talk and communicate ideas. If he told the angels to tell us, how would they do it? An angel told Mary she would bear Jesus, and only faith helped j oseph to believe it. And who would believe anyone who said they were passing on information gained from an angel? These days they would be locked up. But Jesus, as God's son, had the good news and passed it on to his Apostles, and further to the disciples, and from them to the people. The scripture in Luke 19; 36-40 says that if people will not do the job, God has the power to make even the stones talk. To make a statement on a false premise is fatal for a scientist. When the same is done by a researcher as to who Jesus is [ Easterangel claims Jesus is God] is no better. Proverbs 8;22-30 states that Jesus was God's first creation, even before the universe or even the angels. John 17;5 confirms proverbs. " so now you, Father, glorify me[Jesus]ALONGSIDE yourself with the glory that I had ALONGSIDE You ...BEFORE THE WORLD WAS..". And my John 1;2 says " This one was in the beginning WITH God". And Pink still rules!. |
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From: fruitfly-ga on 13 Apr 2005 05:44 PDT |
Could have a perfect angel ever written the 51st Psalm? Technically yes, but he wouldn't be writting his emotions. Such writting wouldn't have been sincere. The importance of being able to know firsthanded what someone is going through in order to be able to show empathy is clearly stressed in Heb 4:15 - "For we have as high priest, not one who cannot sympathyze with out weaknesses, but one who has been tested in all respects like ourselves, but without sin." |
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From: fruitfly-ga on 13 Apr 2005 06:23 PDT |
P.S.I made a mistake typing; it says 'with OUR weaknesses', not 'with out' |
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From: mike123106-ga on 13 Apr 2005 10:58 PDT |
At the risk of sounding a bit non traditional.. I'm going to state that God doesn't communitate his words only through man. "The heavens declare the glory of God;. the skies proclaim the work of God?s hands." - Psalm 19:1 I personally think His word is communicated through a HUGE variety of sources, including the stars, science, and beyond. Even Einstein, with all his knowledge knew that there had to be a God because of all the order he observed in nature. Yes, people like C.S. Lewis will state that nature cannot prove there is a God (from his book "The Four Loves") And I somewhat agree.. but I will say this, alot is writen in the stars and planets. At my college, we had this huge star ball.. the first of its type in the whole USA. With it, one could observe the sky as it looked from any location on earth at any time in history. Taking it back to around the time of Jesus' birth, you can see 2 stars in different constelations alligning to create the "bright star" that the wisemen followed, and 9 months later another bright one. I don't remember which constelations they were (it had a meaning) etc.. But my point is, that God's word will be advanced, communicated, and nothing can stop it. As we see scientific confermations such as this, it only back up God's word a million times and makes me thankful that we have such a wonderful God. |
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From: rywild-ga on 13 Apr 2005 14:19 PDT |
Why did god choose to communicate His word through human beings? That my friend is an excellent question. In both experience and Gods word I would see it as not about effectiveness. Since being all powerful God can and does communicate in a number of ways. Through creation as mentioned in the Psalms before as well the first chapter of Romans talks of creation leaving man without excuse, i.e. they were communicated from creation. We see God us prophets, signs and wonders. All attempting to communicate. So while God calls us to share His message I am not sure it would be correct to assume we are the only path for that message. That not withstanding, God uses us not for Him or them, but for us. The Richman in a story told by Jesus... Luke 16:27-31 27 "He answered, 'Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father's house, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.' 29 "Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.' 30 "'No, father Abraham,' he said, 'but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.' 31 "He said to him, 'If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.'" NIV ...Asks for Jesus to send Lazarus back from the dead to convince them of their need for Christ. But Jesus says, a miracle won't stir belief in them the have the words of Abraham and Moses (The Old Testament also a source for people to hear about God with or with a person involved.) So what stirs belief? What is it that makes the message or messenger effective. According to John 6:44 "No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him?" God is the stirrer. So creation, miracles, talking parakeets, and even people are all useless unless God draws them. Then why Matt 28:19-20 "go unto the world making disciples?" (Paraphrase) If it isn't about being the most effective tool, and we aren't necessary, than it is about us. What does sharing that message do to us? Paul while addressing the Philippians says this, Phil 3:7-21 7 But whatever was to my profit I now consider loss for the sake of Christ. 8 What is more, I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them rubbish, that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ-the righteousness that comes from God and is by faith. 10 I want to know Christ and the power of his resurrection and the fellowship of sharing in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, 11 and so, somehow, to attain to the resurrection from the dead. 12 Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. 13 Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, 14 I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus. 15 All of us who are mature should take such a view of things. And if on some point you think differently, that too God will make clear to you. 16 Only let us live up to what we have already attained. 17 Join with others in following my example, brothers, and take note of those who live according to the pattern we gave you. 18 For, as I have often told you before and now say again even with tears, many live as enemies of the cross of Christ. 19 Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is on earthly things. 20 But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body. NIV And that is a taste of why God uses us because it is in knowing Christ all the more that we attain the resurrection. It is in knowing suffering for the gospel that we better know Christ. That is the answer, that is the why? God uses us to teach us and draw us closer to Him that we may know Him better and that in knowing His glory better we will be blessed by our knowledge of Him and better our ability to glorify Him. I love Ps 42:1-2 As the deer pants for streams of water, so I long for you, O God. I thirst for God, the living God. When can I come and stand before him? NLT When you taste God you will long for more. That is what Paul was getting at and that is why God uses us, so that we might know Him better. Please feel free to ask more question or look for better clarification. As a side note a teacher might ask that question because it is in the process of communicating that we learn the most. You learn as you teach and if you can create possibilities for kids to teach something then they will learn at greater depth and retention than you ever thought possible. |
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