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Subject:
roots / source of a phrase - etymology
Category: Relationships and Society > Cultures Asked by: khoskin-ga List Price: $35.00 |
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18 Apr 2005 12:58 PDT
Expires: 18 May 2005 12:58 PDT Question ID: 510942 |
What is the etymology of the term "cots" (common off the shelf). | |
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Re: roots / source of a phrase - etymology
From: pinkfreud-ga on 18 Apr 2005 13:17 PDT |
"An important book called Software Components With Ada (Booch, 1987) illustrated how one might use these new language features to design software components. The term COTS, for common off-the-shelf, components, became popular shortly afterward." http://www.cse.ohio-state.edu/~weide/rsrg/documents/2001/01W2.pdf |
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Re: roots / source of a phrase - etymology
From: khoskin-ga on 18 Apr 2005 14:03 PDT |
I think you are very close to the answer - upon investigating your link I found the following - "CBSD embodies the "buy, don't build" philosophy espoused by Fred Brooks [Brooks 87]." - found at http://www.sei.cmu.edu/str/descriptions/cbsd.html When I look into the Brooks reference - it leads me to -> http://www-inst.eecs.berkeley.edu/~maratb/readings/NoSilverBullet.html the second reference in here is G. Booch - "G. Booch, "Object-Oriented Design," Software Engineering with Ada, 1983, Menlo Park, Calif.: Benjamin/ Cummings." Is it possible that Brooks provided the "Commercial Off the Shelf" bent to Booch's "Common of the Shelf"? |
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Re: roots / source of a phrase - etymology
From: khoskin-ga on 19 Apr 2005 12:02 PDT |
Contacted Bruce Weide (fellow who wrote the origional article referenced - Component Based Systems) Professor Weide wondered about it going further back to perhaps Doug McIlroy in the late 60's. Continuing to dig. Its interesting that such a prevelant term is so elusive <g>. Kent |
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Re: roots / source of a phrase - etymology
From: pinkfreud-ga on 19 Apr 2005 12:09 PDT |
It is not unusual for terms of this sort to be difficult to trace. You'd think that the recentness of the coinage would make the source of such a term easy to identify, but sometimes even a recent usage is tough to track to its origins. Finding the first use of a common phrase can be like trying to nail Jell-O to the wall. |
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Re: roots / source of a phrase - etymology
From: khoskin-ga on 24 Apr 2005 13:51 PDT |
Another reference that I couldn't nail down ... several pages look like they are jsut referencing each other - But it does sound close ... http://www.armada.ch/02-5/complete_02-5.pdf "the acronymn was devised in 1972 by Bob Costello (Robert B) then the US Deputy Director of Defense. Kent |
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Re: roots / source of a phrase - etymology
From: pafalafa-ga on 24 Apr 2005 14:48 PDT |
I got a couple of hits from 1985 for the phrase, although they don't make use of the acronym, COTS. Still the usage in 1985 certainly suggests that the term was already a familiar one to the authors and readers. I'm inclined to agree with Pinkfreud's comment that the 1987 book reference is probably what propelled the phrase into the vernacular. PERSONAL COMPUTING Wang revives the concept of single-purpose machines 8 February 1985 The Globe and Mail ...Wang's recently introduced Office Assistant products are examples of both the newest and the oldest trends in office automation... ...Deep down inside, word processors, microcomputers, and the Wang Office Assistant are essentially the same product. All use common, off-the-shelf microprocessors, memory chips and disc drives... pafalafa-ga |
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Re: roots / source of a phrase - etymology
From: khoskin-ga on 25 Apr 2005 11:45 PDT |
Thanks for contributing pafalafa-ga - But I don't agree -Booch may have helped the term but I don't think he is the source. An Ada programming book would take along time to impact the vernacular. In addition you'll see (further up) I contacted Bruce Weide the person who wrote the quote. -> "An important book called Software Components With Ada (Booch, 1987) illustrated how one might use these new language features to design software components. The term COTS, for common off-the-shelf, components, became popular shortly afterward." He did not intend to infer that Booch coined the term (although it did become increasingly popular post 1987) He pointed me to a Nato conference on software development and a fellow named Doug McIlroy. This does appear to be the stronegest link I have been able to find. But I also wonder that it is likely that McIlroy linked the component and "off the shelf" thinking to software - Is it possible he was drawing from another source the idea? I did find some circular references to Bob Costello the US Deputy Director of Defense 1972 - but haven't been able to strengthen that. Very clearly 1994 William J Perry (US Defense Secretary) drove "COTS" usage further. If you search for Mr. Lynn Mohler you should find a retirement announcement that seems to validate something happening with 1972 Costello. The McIlroy lead is earlier though. Whats interesting to me is the continual flirtation with this being a militairy economic source - reinforced (and perhaps created) by an information systems thread. I am going to increase the reward for someone to answer this - cheers Kent |
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Re: roots / source of a phrase - etymology
From: khoskin-ga on 08 May 2005 11:29 PDT |
I paid money and dug through the Toronto Star back to 1900 - what I realized when searching for common off the shelf - was that "off the shelf" goes quite far back in the text of articles. Think of "off the shelf" as opposed to "on the shelf". Off the shelf sometimes was used to say "dust it off and it bring it back onto the agenda" - often used in political terms. Off the shelf was also on occasion used in the following manner "the item flew off the shelf" - meaning had great demand or create great demand. In addition "off the shelf" was sometimes literal - ie "the bottle fell off the shelf and broke" If we consider shelf more carefully - look here : http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=shelf&searchmode=none Its interesting that it has roots in the notion of "split or cleave" pulling it back to our origional questions about "common off the shelf" - the phrasing in some our early software design contexts pointed towards components or reusable "parts". It is in this that I see common off the shelf having a linguistic background that is social and understood without being aparent to the current users of the phrase. Here are some numbers from my search of the toronto star for "off the shelf"- ("common off the shelf" found very few hits - all after 1980") 6 hits between 1/1/1900 and 12/31/1904 0 hits between 1/1/1905 and 12/31/1909 4 hits between 1/1/1910 and 12/31/1914 2 hits between 1/1/1915 and 12/31/1919 6 hits between 1/1/1920 and 12/31/1924 2 hits between 1/1/1925 and 12/31/1929 22 hits between 1/1/1930 and 12/31/1934 26 hits between 1/1/1935 and 12/31/1939 28 hits between 1/1/1940 and 12/31/1944 10 hits between 1/1/1945 and 12/31/1949 22 hits between 1/1/1950 and 12/31/1954 18 hits between 1/1/1955 and 12/31/1959 12 hits between 1/1/1960 and 12/31/1964 26 hits between 1/1/1965 and 12/31/1969 42 hits between 1/1/1970 and 12/31/1974 46 hits between 1/1/1975 and 12/31/1979 128 hits between 1/1/1980 and 12/31/1984 132 hits between 1/1/1985 and 12/31/1989 64 hits between 1/1/1990 and 12/31/1994 132 hits between 1/1/1995 and 12/31/1999 68 hits between 1/1/2000 and 12/31/2002 (3 years) *** the earliest quote close to the use of "common off the shelf" that we are seeing now - is an article about a President Kennedy announcement about the purchase of planes January 11 1962 - "The long range transport planes needed for the job, he added, would have to be _bought off the shelf_: there isn't time to design and build entiely new ones." (Toronto Star Jan. 11, 1962). It is interesting he mentions design and build - that it is a military purchase and it is a technology related discussion. This is very close to the "common off the shelf" terminology. Oh well more clues and no answer <g>. Is it posible this phrase is not coined by anyone in particular but instead has grown as part of the social text? Kent |
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Re: roots / source of a phrase - etymology
From: wr777-ga on 10 May 2005 21:55 PDT |
The first thing I thought of when I looked at the question is TQM. It seems to me that COTS is a Total Quality Management principle or supporting concept. If this is the case, then you will probably have the most luck in looking for COTS origins and its first use by doing a cross-search of COTS(or related TQM concept) with W. Edwards Deming (post WWII through the 1980's) who is considered to be the father of the TQM system in Japan during its rebuilding after WWII. I believe this is why you keep getting references to military and economic subjects. Our current day Quality Management principles are derived from Mil specs that were concerned with the economic rebuilding of Japan after WWII. An older and more rare (and therefore harder to find) reference may also be found in relation to a Walter Shewhart (TQM work between 1920's-1940's). I hope this helps in some way. |
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