is the name gyrion jewish?

Dear V David, 

I couldn't find any indications that the name is Jewish. While it is
quiet possible that there are Jews with that name, it is not a
"typical" Jewish name. It has been found in many sites discussing
Belgian ancestry, and also in some sites discussing German one.

In fact, according to a German genealogical site, the name originated
from South-Western Germany. It reveals much on its possible origin, in
the name of a Catholic saint:

"Die Familie Iron, auch "Gürion", "Jürion", "Gyrion" oder auch
"Cirion" vom Jahre 1558 in Talheim genannt. Wie aus dem Wappen
hervorgeht, ist es eine bäuerliche Familie und vor der Reformation
auch katholisch gewesen, denn über dem Wappenschild wacht der heilige
Gereon und segnet die Waffen und das Brot."

translation: 
"Irion Family, also "Gürion", "Jürion", "Gyrion" or "Cirion" is
mentioned in Talheim [nowadays in the German State of
Baden-Wuttemberg, south-western Germany] in 1558. As one could learn
from the coat-of-arms, this is a farmers' family and before the
Reformation, also a Catholic one, because St. Gereon watches over the
coat-of-arms and blesses the arms and the bread".
(SOURCE: Die Familie Irion (2) aus Talheim,
<http://www2.genealogy.net/privat/schifferdecker/irion02.htm>).

Here you could read about St. Gereon, the patron saint of migraines 
Catholic Forum: Patron Saint Index 
<http://www.catholic-forum.com/saints/saintg3w.htm> 

I hope this answers your question. Please contact me if you need any
clarification on this answer, before you rate it.

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Request for Answer Clarification by vdavid23-ga on 13 May 2005 14:05 PDT

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I found this in google is there more information that you could give
me that would link this to a family tree or something because it seems
to make more sense that it maybe jewish.

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Clarification of Answer by politicalguru-ga on 14 May 2005 02:52 PDT

Dear V David, 

Thank you for the rating and the tip! 

The explanation is simple and somewhat mundane: it was a typo (a typing error). 

After reading the text, I could explain it to you. The sentence is
part of a chat or discussion about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
The names mentioned in the sentence:
"rather than discussing qana sabra goldstein ben gyrion balfour what
eddie said said or didnt say...and all that PAST stuff....thats
history...lets talk about the present and the future."

Qana - This is a name of a village in Southern Lebanon, where 102
civilians have been killed by Israeli mortars. Read more:
Qana Massacre
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qana_Massacre> 

Sabra - This is a name of a Palestinian refugee camp in Lebanon. In
1982 the Christian Lebanese Militias conducted a massacre there.
Palestinians blame Israeli forces for being responsibile, since this
was a zone occupied by the Israeli army. Read more:
Sabra and Shatila Massacre
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_Massacre> 

Goldstein - The writer probably refers to Baruch Goldstein. This
Jewish terrorist opened fire in a Monsque in Hebron in 1994, killing
29 Palestinians. Read more:
Baruch Goldstein
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baruch_Goldstein> 

Ben Gyrion - The writer probably (or almot definitely) refers to David
Ben Gurion, the first Prime Minister of Israel. See Mayoarin's comment
further on this page, and read more:
David Ben Gurion (Gruen)
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ben_Gurion>

Balfour - The writer refers to Lord Balfour's declaration during the
First World War, promising a Jewish homeland on the territory of
Palestine/Israel:
Balfour Declaration
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration> 

All these names and details are less important than the intention of
the writer. He wants to move on from these historical issues and
grievances and discuss productive ways to bring about peace.

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Request for Answer Clarification by vdavid23-ga on 15 May 2005 00:25 PDT

How can I re-rate a response and give you a tip too for your research
it seems your answer was the definitive one I am now finding out as I
pursue the issue more closely now.

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Clarification of Answer by politicalguru-ga on 15 May 2005 00:32 PDT

Well, you can't. But thank you anyway. If you want to, you can always
write on your next questions on Google Answers, that you'd like me to
answer them :-)

Gurion is Hebrew for lion:  David Ben Gurion (originally Gruen) took
this name when he was 21.  It probably could also be transliterated to
Gyrion.
The Mark and Larry Gyrions that a search turns up, seem to have a
Jewish connection, but there also seems to be a family of that name
stemming from Belgium that has lots of first names that are not
typically Jewish (or none that I noticed that were, but that's a lot
of subjectivety, and the absence or presence does not prove anything,
either way).

Gyrion seems to be a common word in Welsh:  "ar gyrion" apparently
means something like "in/on the outskirts/surroundings".  (Someone
will disabuse me of this interpretation, no doubt.)

Dear Mr. Gyrion,
I found a genealogical site that gave me that, hence my mentioning it
in the hope that someone else could use the info to find a
substantiated answer.
Belgium certainly does not have be THE source for the name, nor do my
other comments have to mean that the name IS Jewish.  The Larry and
Mark I mentioned appeared on sites that related to Jewish activities
(in California, as I recall).
So, again, just suggestions.

Perhaps you have more information about the name that would interest
the questioner.

It is contrary to Google Answers policy to post one's own email
address, so you may wish to ask the editors to cancel your comment. 
See the last line below.
Regards,
Myoarin

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Could you give me family tree information related to this information
because I found this on google whicch supports your comments.

HI David,
No, I can't, but I am very bad at genealogical searching, e.g., this
time I didn't find the Belgian connection I found before, that
Politicalguru also found, apparently.  This time I found one with
Gyrion as a family name, with Welsh-looking first  names like "David
Lloyd"-
A Larry Gyrion from the UK posted a comment that has now been deleted,
to which my  second comment was a reply.

Sorry and regards

The Mark and Larry Gyrions where did you find this information and is
there any links I can follow to research this information further?

David,
I must apologize, the "Jewish connections" that I mentioned in my
first comment I cannot find now.  At the time, I was convinced that I
saw them, but if I can't now...  My apologizes all round.  Sorry.

Here are sites that mention each, Mark and Larry, and as to the story
in the first one, I was definitely NOT implying that it suggested a
"Jewish connection!:

http://www.suntimes.com/special_sections/clout/followup/cst-nws-hired06.html
http://indynug.tripod.com/id3.html

The second one mentions the Larry Gyrion who posted a comment asking
about the Belgium connection.  He cancelled his comment at my
suggestion, but can be contacted through the above site.
 
The following site, that I have just found, mentions an Aaron Gyrion,
Aaron being a first name that is often considered to be one more
likely to be chosen by Jewish parents, but since it appears under St.
Laurance School, this seems unlikely in this case, and I am not
implying that the person is Jewish.

http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dsliving/021ldnob.htm

Again  - Sorry David and others, I went off half-cocked.  :-(

Thank you for the rating and the tip!