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testing whether certain data falls within random range
Category: Science > Math Asked by: myq-ga List Price: $20.00 |
Posted:
26 Apr 2005 11:46 PDT
Expires: 26 May 2005 11:46 PDT Question ID: 514517 |
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Re: testing whether certain data falls within random range
From: volterwd-ga on 27 Apr 2005 17:34 PDT |
Asking whether something is random or not doesnt make sense... Statistical tests are testing whether a model fits or not... you cant test 'randomness'. To be honest what you want in general isnt clear either. Maybe you could clarify what you want. |
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Re: testing whether certain data falls within random range
From: volterwd-ga on 27 Apr 2005 18:54 PDT |
Do you mean that you want to test whether a increase/decrease is attributed to a shift in the mean or if its just random? |
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Re: testing whether certain data falls within random range
From: myq-ga on 28 Apr 2005 13:04 PDT |
I believe there are statistical tests to show that certain data is CONSISTENT with randomness (that does not mean that it really is random, of course). For example, though it is possible to get 100 Heads in 100 coin tosses, if you were told someone had got 100 heads in a row you would expect that there was a problem with the coin, or something else. In this case, one could try the model that there was a 55% chance that the next 1 cent change in a share price would be upwards and 45% that it would be downwards. One could extrapolate the prices for each day starting with the known actual prices THEN compare with the actual daily prices. Then, I am supposing, there would be relatively straightforward statistical tests to determine within certain tolerance levels whetrher the actual prices being random was consistent with the data. Statistics is not my field but I do know definitivel that various researchers have studied this problem and most have come back saying the data is consistent with the theory that prices move randomly. Look forward to someone explaining in greater detail how one could show such consistency (which agai, is not proving the theory) |
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Re: testing whether certain data falls within random range
From: marketjunkie-ga on 02 May 2005 14:56 PDT |
What you're looking for is a way to quantify the information content (i.e. deviation away from randomness) in a set of what may look like "noisy" data. Someone by the name of Shannon introduced such a method many years ago. Shannon's information theory was formulated in 1948 (!), but it still applies to this day and the theory has been put to practical use in order to measure the information content in neuronal spikes (brain cells send information that looks very noisy (like stock data), but is actually rich in content). (I had a pdf of Shannon's seminal paper somewhere but I can't seem to find it) Nevertheless, what you're looking for is possible and while I was about to write a page-long reply to your query, I believe the link below may provide you with more than enough information (practical, as well as theory). You can also look at the deviation from the geometric mean as a way to quantify 'noise'... http://survivor99.com/lcg/english/portfolio/ENG_page.html It would be quite straightforward to implement most of these techniques by using a Matlab script. Linear systems theory is very applicable to your query... hope this helps you! |
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