What is the average pH of wild (not zoo kept) bonobo and chimpanzee's
urine and saliva? |
Request for Question Clarification by
blazius-ga
on
07 Aug 2002 01:18 PDT
I really doubt that anybody has conducted research which would
establish such reference values for wild animals. How would you do it
in a manner that could not interfere with the results?
I expect that the values for captive animals that are fed a natural
diet would not differ much from what you'd find in the wild. Would an
answer based on samples from a large number of captive animals be
acceptable?
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Request for Question Clarification by
tehuti-ga
on
07 Aug 2002 03:16 PDT
"I expect that the values for captive animals that are fed a natural
diet would not differ much from what you'd find in the wild."
That's not necessarily the case. Captive animals might not be fed in
exactly the same way as they would feed themselves in the wild. For
example, they might not get all the types of fruit found in their
country of origin. Also, if gut microflora influence these values in
any way, they could well differ in captivity and in the wild. In the
case of laboratory primates, it is unlikely they would receive
anything like a natural diet, even if the diet is enriched with fruit,
locusts or whatever.
My guess is that values for animals in the wild would show quite a
large variation, since they would be influenced by the type of food
available in a given area and by seasonal changes in availability.
I have not found any studies on this topic. You might want to contact
some primatologists directly with your query. You can find an
international directory of people and organizations on the web site of
the Wisconsin Primate Research Center:
http://www.primate.wisc.edu/pin/
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Clarification of Question by
coconut-ga
on
07 Aug 2002 06:59 PDT
Zoo kept primates are not fed their natural raw, wildcrafted diet.
They are fed cooked food as well as not wildcrafted raw and often
given unnatural "supplements" and medicines. Plus they are more
sedentary and not in their natural milieu, which affects their health
and longevity. I know it's difficult to find someone who had a reason
to obtain fresh urine or saliva from a wild bonobo or chimp and
measure the pH, but characteristics of those fluids, especially pH,
would provide valuable benchmarks for humans.
Cutting edge science says we are alkaline by nature and need to eat
mostly alkaline producing foods (raw fruits and vegetables) for
optimum health. Our alkaline state can be easily monitored by our
average urine and saliva pH readings. I want to confirm this with
bonobo and chimp's pH. They are our closest relatives in nature and
function in the wild by instinct, the truest pattener of behavior.
I was hoping to find a pharmacological or other researcher who needed
to find out the answer to my question.
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Clarification of Question by
coconut-ga
on
07 Aug 2002 07:10 PDT
If an answer can't be found short of going to the Congo and obtaining
a few wild bonobos, I might be satisified with zoo kept bonobos' pH,
averaged from several bonobos fed as naturally as possible. Surely
someone has monitored this information.
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