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Subject: Reseach ancient manuscript
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference
Asked by: citizena-ga
List Price: $50.00
Posted: 30 Apr 2005 01:24 PDT
Expires: 30 May 2005 01:24 PDT
Question ID: 516111
Apart from is available through routine Google searches, I can find
very little on the "Liber Vaticinationem Quodam Instinctumentis", a
supposedly ancient book of prophecy from the 4th century,and allegedly
suppressed by the Vatican. Is there someone able to research whether
or not his book actually exists or is a hoax, where it is located, and
if a translation is available?

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 30 Apr 2005 15:06 PDT

I found only one reference to this mysterious document in a popular
book about Nostradamus and other prophets of bygone times.

It's possible to access some of the material from the book online, and
from what I've seen, there's no convincing documentation that the LVQI
really exists.

The author describes it this way:

"Around AD 346 one of the most extraordinary books of prophecy, the
Liber Vaticinationem Quodam Instinctumentis, was born.  Written by an
unknown scholar, it is the only prophetic book to provide exact

and goes on the tell that only one or two copies exist, though he
doesn't quite say where they are, how he got access to them, or how he
had them translated into modern English (to be fair, though, I only
looked at a few pages, not the whole write-up).

I'd be a bit wary about his claim of "exact dates"  Here's an example
from the book:

"The manuscript divides history into a series of overlapping periods. 
Each of these is called a norma...The normae cover fixed periods of
time, usually 60 or 144 years, and the prophecies...are very

[For instance, here's a norma]

63:1 This norma will only be fresh born
When none but the quarrelsome wolf
Has lifted up his arm against another
In the Empire for one hundred years..

The author concludes from this:

"I interpret this to cover the period 1915 to 2058.  The word "Empire"
indicates Europe...The prophecies predicted will take place...only
after a period of 100 years of relative peace...  The "quarrelsome
wolf" is Germany.  Now, as there was a period of relative peace in
Europe for 99 years from the defeat of Napoleon at Waterloo in 1815
until 1915 (with the exception of the Franco-Prussian War...) this
norma was due to begin in 1915..."


Anyway, I'd be glad to identify the book -- which you can view a few
pages of yourself, online -- if you think that would suffice as an

Let me know.


Clarification of Question by citizena-ga on 01 May 2005 00:28 PDT
Hello pafa, I'm glad to have you again to help! Firstly, perhaps you
could check Lexis Nexis again as well? But in the meantime I would be
interested in knowing which book you referenced and what references or
bibliograpgy re: the Liber are given in that book. As you maybe have
seen, references on Google are scant, and more or less state what you
have stated, or are on foreign websites (which I strongly suspect
translate into the English the same and give no new information).
Please do as much digging as you can think of and that will suffice as
an answer. Thanks very much for your efforts. As I've inferred, I
wouldn't be too surprised if it's a hoax, but am curious to know.
Subject: Re: Reseach ancient manuscript
Answered By: pafalafa-ga on 01 May 2005 05:05 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
Hello again, citizena-ga,

I conducted a thorough search for the Liber Vaticinationem Quodam
Instinctumentis.  There is no mention that I could find in any of the
following sources:




Project Muse

Other Newspaper historical archives (NY Times, Washington Post, and others)

Online Medieval & Classical Library

These are all very "deep" resources that collectively include billions
of pages in millions of documents, span an enormous amount of content,
and cover both the popular and scholarly, the modern and historical. 
But nothing shows up on your query, I'm afraid.

In fact, I found mention of the LVQI in only one source.  The
description of it is so imprecise as to lead one to wonder whether, in
fact, there ever was such a document as the author describes.

The LVQI was found in a search of the database, which can
search inside the content of many of the books offered at

I believe it is necessary to be registered with A9/Amazon before you
can actually view the content of the books, but there is no charge for
registering, and it is a simple process (you'll be prompted to
register if you try to view any book results at the site).

You should certainly have a look for yourself, however, at the
write-up on the LVQI.

First, head to:

and search for [ Liber Vaticinationem Quodam Instinctumentis ]

The search results page will show you web search results similar to a
Google search, but it will also show one "Book Result" (which does not
appear on a Google search).  The book in question is:

The Prophecies of Nostradamus and the World's Greatest Seers and Mystics
by Francis King and Stephen Skinner
Carlton Books, 2002

This is a popular book -- rather than an academic or scholarly
treatise -- and it devotes several pages to a discussion of LVQI,
beginning on page 230 of the book.

The authors introduce LVQI with the language I provided earlier:

"Around AD 346 one of the most extraordinary books of prophecy, the
Liber Vaticinationem Quodam Instinctumentis, was born.  Written by an
unknown scholar, it is the only prophetic book to provide exact

Of the actual history and whereabouts of LVQI, the authors say only this:

"This book was rigorously supressed by the Vatican, and appears to
have only survived in one or two manuscript copies.  One copy found
its way into the huge collection of esoteric books and manuscripts
amassed by the Nazis during World War II, and was stored in a
warehouse in Poznan in Poland.

The manuscript probably dates from around the second half of the 16th
century, and may have been made from a much earlier original.  The
main text is written in Latin..."

That's it, I'm afraid.  There's no description of where the manuscript
was originally found, where it is at present, how the authors located
it, or of the process whereby the authors translated a text written in
4th century Latin into modern English.

And there's no mention of where one can access the translated text to
read the LVQI for oneself.

Beyond that, there are a few pages in "Prophecies" that discuss the
predictions made in LVQI.  The authors assert that it is the "only
prophetic book to provide exact dates", but as I mentioned earlier,
this is a hard claim to take seriously.

Some of the text presented is suggestive of future events, such as the
great wars of the 20th century.

However, the authors provide absolutely no interpretation of text that
makes any predictions for events that have not yet happened.  The 64th
"norma" of the book applies to the period 1945-2089, according to the
authors, but they only provide some brief text from this norma, and do
not provide any insight into what the future holds in store, according
to the prophecies of the LVQI.

Again, there's no convincing evidence presented that this text
actually exists anywhere, except in the imaginations of a few
modern-day writers.

I wish I could tell you definitively that the LVQI does or does not
exist.  I suspect it does not, as there is absolutely no evidence to
the contrary.

I trust this information fully answers your question.  However, please
don't rate this answer until you have everything you need.  If you
would like any additional information, just post a Request for
Clarification to let me know how I can assist you further, and I'm at
your service.

All the best in your continuing quest for the truth,


Request for Answer Clarification by citizena-ga on 02 May 2005 02:16 PDT
Pafalafa: Well, I'm going to have to hold on to you for future needs!
You certainly seem to know your way around  reference sources which
I've not even heard of, which, IMO, makes you an exceptional resource!
I followed your lead to the book. I find it amazing that these authors
seem to be the only ones with knowledge of this LVQI. But I would not
have even known about this book, (from which probably all the internet
references spring), unless you had found it. And so just out of
curiousity, even though it appears to be a generally worthless book, I
splurged and purchased a copy for only $.01 (used) just to see what
kind of bibliography or reference at the back of the book, if any,
they may have. If, on the seemingly off-chance there is a source
listed, I may have you help me on that. However, as you have already
pointed out, the absence of any mention of the LVQI by reputable
sources make it's existence unlikely. ButI have stopped and asked,
however, just who wrote the stuff cited in the Nostradamus book? (The
obvious answer is the authors themselves!) But maybe we'll learn
something else from their book, who knows?.... In the meantime, I am
extremely satisfied with your research and the efforts you took to do
an indepth inquiry, and will close the question. If I find a reference
I can't track down after seeing their book, I'll be sure to ask it at
GA, so keep an eye out. Thanks again for a great job.-citizen.a-ga

Clarification of Answer by pafalafa-ga on 02 May 2005 04:29 PDT
Thanks so much.

I certainly look forward to the next challenge.

'Til then...

citizena-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $10.00
As before, this GA researcher has demonstrated great enthusiasm and
professionalism in his answer, and has gone beyond the call of duty to
do in-depth research for me, utilizing a variety of outside sources.
Highly recommended!

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