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Subject: cost of reproduction/ evoloution/ecology
Category: Science > Biology
Asked by: scottyc-ga
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Posted: 30 Apr 2005 08:05 PDT
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In relation to the cost of reproduction, are the underlying mechanisms
resource based or genetically based?

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 30 Apr 2005 08:16 PDT
Scottyc-ga,

I'm a biologist, but I'm really not clear on what you're after, here.

Can you clarify your question, and the sort of answer you're expecting?  

Thanks.

pafalafa-ga

Clarification of Question by scottyc-ga on 01 May 2005 03:47 PDT
I presume you know what the cost of reproduction (trade offs between
traits) is. I am having to do a presentation on it for university and
one of the topics is its underlying mechanisms. There is an argument
that the cost of reproduction maybe linked to resources and/or
genetics. For example, for resources, the availibility of nutrients
will be a factor (less nutrients = less energy = less reproduction). I
need to find the evidence that there is a genetic link to the cost of
reproduction. i.e do genes dictate a trade off between reproduction
and other traits eg. survival.
Hope this clears things up, if not please contact me as soon as
possible as this is an urgent matter
Many Thanks

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 01 May 2005 12:28 PDT
Thanks for the feedback, but I'm still not sure what you're after.  Do
you need a list of references, a mathematical derivation, a brief
overview, and evidence-based treatise?

For starters, here's a good summary of cost of reproduction theory in plants:


http://www.newphytologist.org/Obeso.pdf


with a fairly extensive discussion of both genetics and resources as a
factor in allocating energy.

For what it's worth, I've never bought into the cost of reproduction
work myself, as it doesn't seem reasonably to me to try and tickle
apart reproductive costs from, e.g. defensive costs or food-gathering
costs, and the latter activities ultimately make possible (or not!)
reproductive success of the individual.  But that's just my two
cents...

Let me know what you think of the above link, and what you need as an
answer to your question.


pafalafa-ga

Clarification of Question by scottyc-ga on 02 May 2005 04:01 PDT
Thank-you for the link you provided, it proved useful and was in
relation to what i was looking for. In relation to your latest query,
i am looking for an evidence-based treatise.

look forward to hearing from you
Many thanks
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Subject: Re: cost of reproduction/ evoloution/ecology
From: myoarin-ga on 01 May 2005 07:01 PDT
 
Is this anecdote in line with what you want?
There are (or were) tribes in New Guinea that thought that babies came
from eating pork, something they feasted on only occasionally. 
Apparently mating was significantly more successful after those
feasts.

Of course, they could also have remained celibate between feasts, but
that does not necessarily undermine the idea that reproduction was
resource-related:  either they saved their energy for survival, or
they were infertile.
Subject: Re: cost of reproduction/ evoloution/ecology
From: armavirumque-ga on 20 May 2005 17:04 PDT
 
Hey.  Like pafalafa, I'm a little unsure of what you are looking for
by your question and clarification.  But I'd say that there is most
certainly a genetic basis to much of the cost of reproduction.  In the
broadest sense, the genes that program for certain life histories or
certain phenotypic reproductive aspects bear directly on reproductive
costs and can supercede proximate resource-based factors.  For
example, where iteroparous species can take advantage of an extended
favorable season (eg, abundant food) by engaging in multiple
reproductive bouts, semelparous populations cannot overcome their
genetically based spawn and die life history even if the proximal
environment favors a spawn and live strategy.  Or, K-adapted organisms
with late onset of reproduction and/or large energetic investment in
few/large gametes will not be able to make a go of it if the
environmental stochasticity becomes such that they do not live long
enought reach sexual maturity or take in enough energy to pay for the
cost of gonad/gamete development. Similarly, phenotypes that confer a
presumable sexual selective advantage but also open animals up to
increased mortality risk should be seen as important tradeoffs.  Male
coloration that can increase courtship success but make males more
susceptible to visual predators, perhaps. Or the textbook example of
the Irish elk, whose runaway selection of an extreme dimorphic trait
(massive male antlers) presumable led to an overall reduction in
fitness because survival took a hit - even if females prefered males
with the biggest racks.

Clearly, I'm leaning more toward crafting an argument in which genetic
factors are more important than environmental resources on
evolutionary scales.  On proximal scales I think you can make the
opposite argument and it would be equally true.  Resource limitation
(be it food, living space, nesting sites, mates...) is going to
largely determine the reproductive success in any given year. 
Finally, it is the proximal environmental filter that, in time, gives
rise to the genotypes that dictate and constrain the specifics of
reproduction and so it comes full circle.

Aside:  As far as what has been said earlier about "tickling apart"
the cost of reproduction (I like that terminology, btw), I would
disagree.  Energy intake has to always be allocated between metabolic
basics (eg, respiration), growth, and reproduction.  In a stressful or
resource-limited environment, reproduction (a 'luxury item') is the
first thing to go.  As stress increases, growth is compromised. 
Finally, if stress exceeds a lethal threshold the organism dies. 
Picture it as three nested bell curves centered about an optimal mean
condition, and with increasing levels of stress extending in both
directions along the horizontal axis.

Apologies if my answers stayed somewhat generalized, but hopefully it
gives you some possible directions to go in.

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