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Electronics: rating of switches/relays
Category: Science Asked by: doctordavid-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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10 May 2005 04:25 PDT
Expires: 09 Jun 2005 04:25 PDT Question ID: 519904 |
Electronics: why does the technical data for many switches and relays specify a *minimum* operating voltage and current, as well as a maximum? For example, the data sheet at http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/36353.pdf shows a keyboard switch with a *minimum* switch voltage of 20mV and a *minimum* switch current of 1mA. The datasheet for a relay, http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/17343.pdf, indicates a similar "minimum switching capacity". | |
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Re: Electronics: rating of switches/relays
From: wizawuza-ga on 11 May 2005 11:47 PDT |
I believe the reason is due to the contact resistance and noise. Since there is contact resistance, such a small value of voltage and current may be "lost" in the noise of the contact resistance. If that value is lost, you'll never see the input on the output. |
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Re: Electronics: rating of switches/relays
From: ldavinci-ga on 13 May 2005 13:15 PDT |
The minimum current rating for the switches are to make sure that there is no erratic variations in the contact resistance when the switch is put into "on" state, especially under low current switching.Basically you have better noise margin due to stable contact resistance, when the current is more than the minimum allowed value. The low value of the current also depends on the switch construction(type of contact coating(gold plating prevents formation of oxidising film), mechanical pressure on the contacts(reduced and stable contact resistance)). Carrying of low currents is beneficial to the switching contacts, but switching under such conditions is not always reliable.The contacts in relays are further influenced by the susceptibility to mechanical shock, variation in contact pressure(between active/holding states). I hope the above explanation helps in getting a better understanding on the minimum current requirements for a switch. Regards ldavinci-ga |
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Re: Electronics: rating of switches/relays
From: mo411-ga on 14 May 2005 12:00 PDT |
Thoughts, From google search: ://www.google.com/search?q=relay+minimum+voltage+rating&hl=en&lr= Voltage, off state. In solid state relay, the following determine whether the relay will stay off under each load voltage condition: (1) Critical rate of rise of commutation voltage, dv/dt. The maximum value of the rate of rise of principal voltage which will cause switching from the off state to the on state. (2) Maximum off state voltage (VDMax)(RMS). The maximum effective steady state voltage that the output is capable of withstanding when in off state. (3) Maximum rate of rise of off state voltage, dv/dt. The rate of rise of the off-state voltage which the output can withstand without false operation. (4) Minimum off state voltage (VDMin)(RMS). The minimum effective voltage which the relay will switch. (5) Non-repetitive peak voltage (VDSM).The maximum off-state voltage that the output terminals are capable of withstanding without breakover or damage. http://www.leachintl2.com/english/english2/vol6/properties/00009.html ---- That would be solid state relay... an analog relay, across a coil, I believe, it is stay voltage and current. Meaning, there is a spring which pulls the contacts back to the 'off' state, position, and to counter the force of the spring the coil must drop below the minimum voltage and current. There is also some force applied by the current traveling through the contact that the spring has to overcome in order to open the circuit (that would be very small but still should be accounted for in the purest sense, which is what I always thought the ratings where given to show). I look forward to seeing what the full answer is to the question. |
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Re: Electronics: rating of switches/relays
From: larryg999-ga on 18 May 2005 18:17 PDT |
When exposed to the environment, a surface film (from smoke, air pollution, etc) is deposited on the metal contacts of the mechanical relay or switch. Additionally, for contacts other than gold, a surface film may be formed as a result of oxidation or corrosion. Even if the metal contacts were sealed in a vacuum, the flow of electrical current causes arcing whenever the metal contacts meet. This arcing can cause pitting of the contact surface, i.e. tiny balls of metal are melted and re-deposited. If the surface film (oxide, etc) on the metal contact is an insulator, a minimum applied voltage is required to "punch through" this very thin layer of insulation. This punch-through phenomenon may be visualized as a lightning storm, occuring on a microscopic scale. To give a sense of scale: the breakdown voltage of air (an insulator) is 25,000 volts per inch (between two metal surfaces which are flat, like the switch contacts), which scales to 25 millivolts per microinch. |
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Re: Electronics: rating of switches/relays
From: rexw-ga on 26 May 2005 09:06 PDT |
larryg999-ga is on the right track. Silver contacts are well known to experience problems when switching low voltages and currents (signals). The current required to remove the oxide layer and establish a metal to metal contact and hence an electrical connection is also described as a wetting current. It is normally in the order of a few milliamps. If you wish to reliably switch signals in the mV uA region then a gold contact is likely to give a much better performance. Wetting currents are in the uA region. Less than this then a wiping contact or a mercury wetted reed would be required. I found this link looking for the wetting current on a specific switch where the customer has designed in a silver switch and we believe it should probably be gold as we are getting poor performance and the current is ~1mA. |
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