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Subject:
Repair of induction motor in old Graybar fan
Category: Science > Physics Asked by: trazam1986-ga List Price: $20.00 |
Posted:
16 May 2005 12:49 PDT
Expires: 15 Jun 2005 12:49 PDT Question ID: 522303 |
I'm trying to repair an old (1930's) Graybar electric fan model 7854-c I believe the fan uses an induction motor. The fan will not start on its own, rather it makes a humming noise. If you give one if the blades a push to get it started, it works perfectly - it's quiet and all 3 speeds work. There does not seem to be much to the motor, what makes this type of motor start? Is there a method of cleaning/repairing this motor to get it to start on it's own. From the motor to the speed control in the base there are three wires. from the control resistor/transformer in the base to the standard AC plug there are 2 wires. |
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Re: Repair of induction motor in old Graybar fan
From: myoarin-ga on 17 May 2005 04:15 PDT |
Reminds me of my lawn mower, that won't start in tall grass, since the direct drive electric motor cannot overcome the resisitance. If the fan is 60 years old, maybe the motor or bearings are gummed up a bit and cleaning them would eleviate the problem. |
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Re: Repair of induction motor in old Graybar fan
From: boyo62-ga on 17 May 2005 14:11 PDT |
Single-phase induction motors are not self-starting in the way 3-phase motors are. They invariably have an additional winding for starting purposes, these days usually connected in series with a capacitor. If you have access to an Ohmmeter, you should test for continuity between the three leads you say are coming from the motor (BE SURE THE MOTOR IS NOT CONNECTED TO THE SUPPLY DURING TESTING). What I otherwise suggest, is that you pay a visit to this site:- http://www.uoguelph.ca/~antoon/Forum/Forum.html and put your question there. There are some very knowledgeable and practical people there who wil almost certainly help you further. |
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Re: Repair of induction motor in old Graybar fan
From: wiml-ga on 09 Jul 2005 12:41 PDT |
As boyo62 writes, induction motors have an extra winding to give that initial push. It sounds like that's the problem. Some ideas: 1, the most common way that the start winding is wired up is with a capacitor. Old kinds of capacitors are prone to die after a while, often by drying out. If there is a start capacitor --- maybe attached to the motor, maybe inside its casing --- it might need to be replaced. This would probably be pretty simple and cheap. 2, often there is a centrifugal switch which disconnects the start winding after the motor gets up to speed. If there is such a switch, it may have gotten stuck in the 'off' position, and could just need some cleaning. 3, the switch could have gotten stuck in the 'on' position instead, and when the start winding wasn't disconnected after starting, it could have burned out. (Some start windings are designed to be energized the whole time; some must be disconnected to keep from burning out, hence the centrifugal switch.) |
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