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Subject: Immigration and Social Security
Category: Relationships and Society > Government
Asked by: amrb-ga
List Price: $25.00
Posted: 20 May 2005 11:34 PDT
Expires: 19 Jun 2005 11:34 PDT
Question ID: 523793
I was recently told by an economist that legal and illegal immigrant
in the USA paid a great deal into Social Security that they never
collect on, and that this is helping extend the solvency of our Social
Security system.  Has this been seriously studied, and what are the
results of those studies?
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Subject: Re: Immigration and Social Security
Answered By: pinkfreud-ga on 20 May 2005 12:50 PDT
Rated:3 out of 5 stars
 
There has been considerable discussion of this matter in recent times.
As is often the case with economic and political topics, there is no
consensus of opinion among the experts; the same statistics, plus a
bit of speculation, can lead to opposite conclusions.

This interesting paper, "The Contribution of Legal Immigration to the
Social Security System," by Stuart Anderson, Executive Director of the
National Foundation for American Policy, looks at the impact of legal
immigration upon Social Security:

The Contribution of Legal Immigration to the Social Security System
http://www.nfap.net/researchactivities/studies/SocialSecurityStudy2005Revised.pdf

Here's the abstract of "Social Security Benefits of Immigrants and
U.S. Born," published by the National Bureau of Economic Research:

"Abstract: For each year of work under the Social Security System,
immigrants realize higher benefits than U.S. born, even when their
earnings are identical in all years the immigrant has been in the
U.S.. Two features of the social security benefit calculation are
responsible: the social security benefit formula transfers benefits
toward those with low lifetime covered earnings, and all years an
immigrant spends outside the US are treated as years of zero income.
Immigrants with high earnings who have worked in the U.S. for only a
10-20 years benefit most from these procedures. If instead earnings
were averaged only over the years an immigrant resides in the U.S.,
and benefits prorated immigrants would receive the same return on
their social security taxes as US born who have the same earnings in
each year. It is difficult to justify the current procedures
determining benefits for immigrants on the basis of income or wealth
differences between US and foreign born. Among HHRS respondents, mean
total wealth of immigrants is 92% of the mean total wealth of US born,
while the mean income of immigrants exceeds the mean income of US born
by 3%. But income and wealth are less evenly distributed among foreign
born than US born. Depending on whether the appropriate period for
calculating benefits is taken to be 35 or 40 years, prorating would
reduce the present value of benefit payments to the cohort of
immigrants born from 1932-1941 (91% of the HRS cohort) by $7.5 billion
or $15 billion respectively. The 1932-1941 cohort represents 1/7 of
all foreign born who are now 25-64. We also ask whether, from a
selfish financial viewpoint, US born participants would have preferred
to have immigrants from the HRS cohort included in social security.
The answer is yes. Despite their better deal, most immigrants in the
HRS cohort will pay more in taxes than they will receive in benefits,
although just barely."

EconPapers: Social Security Benefits of Immigrants and U.S. Born
http://econpapers.repec.org/paper/nbrnberwo/6478.htm 

A cached copy of the entire paper may be found here:

Cached copy, Social Security Benefits of Immigrants and U.S. Born
http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:NOUAfM8rofkJ:www.econ.lsa.umich.edu/classes/Econ622/Retirement/Retire/Gustman-Immigrants_SS.pdf

Here's a paper called "Immigration in an Aging Society: Workers, Birth
Rates, and Social Security," by Steven A. Camarota, the Director of
Research at the Center for Immigration Studies:

Center for Immigration Studies: Backgrounder
http://www.cis.org/articles/2005/back505.pdf

Camarota is often cited in discussions of this subject. Here is an
excerpts from a news article that summarizes some of his findings:

"The Social Security Administration, in making its standard 75-year
projections into the future for the system, must make several
assumptions about immigrants, including how many arrive each year. It
also assumes 25 percent of new arrivals will leave the US each year,
and that they will have average earnings.

In fact, Camarota notes, a large body of research shows immigrants on
average make decidedly less money than native-born Americans. So they
pay less payroll taxes. And they draw out proportionately more because
the system is structured to redistribute income a little. It provides
a bigger pension to low-income workers relative to their Social
Security contributions than it does for higher-income workers.

Thus, the younger age of immigrants may not result in a positive
impact on Social Security, Camarota concludes.

Moreover, many immigrants are eligible to draw on the Earned Income
Tax Credit, a program Congress devised in 1975 to refund all or part
of Social Security taxes paid by low-wage workers. The credit is
funded out of general revenues, not by the Social Security system. But
it remains germane to the aging issue.

Even if legal immigration was doubled - from an assumed 800,000 per
year to 1.6 million - it would still leave more than 90 percent of the
Social Security future funding problem in place in dollar terms,
Camarota calculates."

Christian Science Monitor: Immigration can't save Social Security
http://www.christiansciencemonitor.org/2005/0509/p17s01-wmgn.html

This comes from an article which originally appeared in the New York Times:

"Using data from the Census Bureau's current population survey, Steven
Camarota, director of research at the Center for Immigration Studies,
an advocacy group in Washington that favors more limits on
immigration, estimated that 3.8 million households headed by illegal
immigrants generated $6.4 billion in Social Security taxes in 2002."

Global Aging: Illegal Immigrants Are Bolstering Social Security with Billions
http://www.globalaging.org/pension/us/socialsec/2005/illegal.htm

Also from the New York Times article cited above:

"It is impossible to know exactly how many illegal immigrant workers
pay taxes. But according to specialists, most of them do. Since 1986,
when the Immigration Reform and Control Act set penalties for
employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants, most such workers
have been forced to buy fake ID's to get a job... workers must be paid
by the book - with payroll tax deductions...

Starting in the late 1980's, the Social Security Administration
received a flood of W-2 earnings reports with incorrect - sometimes
simply fictitious - Social Security numbers. It stashed them in what
it calls the "earnings suspense file" in the hope that someday it
would figure out whom they belonged to.

The file has been mushrooming ever since: $189 billion worth of wages
ended up recorded in the suspense file over the 1990's, two and a half
times the amount of the 1980's.

In the current decade, the file is growing, on average, by more than
$50 billion a year, generating $6 billion to $7 billion in Social
Security tax revenue and about $1.5 billion in Medicare taxes.

In 2002 alone, the last year with figures released by the Social
Security Administration, nine million W-2's with incorrect Social
Security numbers landed in the suspense file, accounting for $56
billion in earnings, or about 1.5 percent of total reported wages.

Social Security officials do not know what fraction of the suspense
file corresponds to the earnings of illegal immigrants. But they
suspect that the portion is significant."

A few more online articles that may interest you:

Wall Street Journal: Immigrants play a key role in Social Security
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110006397

The San Diego Union_Tribune: Illegal immigrants and Social Security
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20050410/news_mz1e10ruben.html

Global Aging: Immigrants Are Social Security 'Boost'
http://www.globalaging.org/pension/us/socialsec/2005/boost.htm

VDARE: Immigrants Can?t Bail Out Social Security
http://www.vdare.com/rubenstein/050324_nd.htm

Indian American Center for Political Awareness: Study by National
Foundation for American Policy
http://www.iacfpa.org/p_news/nit/iacpa-archieve/2005/02/25/immi2-25022005.html

Nathan Newman: "Saving" Social Security: Invest in Immigrant Children,
not the Stock Market
http://www.nathannewman.org/archives/000054.shtml

OnlyPunjab: American News
http://onlypunjab.com/fullstory2k5-insight--status-28-newsID-12235.html

Slate: The Social Security Crisis - Solved!
http://slate.msn.com/id/2096880/

My Google search strategy:

Google Web Search: "social security" immigrants
://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22social+security%22+immigrants

I hope this is helpful. If anything is unclear or incomplete, please
request clarification; I'll be glad to offer further assistance before
you rate my answer.

Best regards,
pinkfreud
amrb-ga rated this answer:3 out of 5 stars
This is a good answer given that people disagree about the issue and
debate the statistics due to the intense politics involved. However
given that there are standards for research opinions, I believe that
there is probably an answer that most academics who study this will
agree upon.  Like the early days of Global warming reporting, there
was a political debate that led most people to believe differing
points of view, but among the meteorologists and climatologists who
actually studied such things, there was a consensus, with only a few
in disagreement.  So, although the research being used by both
political positions is given by the answer, there may be a more
scientific truth available, that is not identified.  I would like to
have gotten to that.

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Subject: Re: Immigration and Social Security
From: pinkfreud-ga on 20 May 2005 15:46 PDT
 
I am sorry that my work was not fully satisfactory. As I mentioned in
my answer, I would have been glad to offer further assistance if you
had requested clarification rather than giving me a low rating.

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