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beauty and evolution
Category: Science Asked by: benpark22-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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08 Aug 2002 19:34 PDT
Expires: 07 Sep 2002 19:34 PDT Question ID: 52418 |
Does beauty play a role in evolution? When choosing wife, almost all men prefer beautiful women, and the standards of beauty seem to be universal across races and cultures. So I assume the preference to beautiful women is in our gene. How did we get to this? |
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Re: beauty and evolution
Answered By: rcd-ga on 08 Aug 2002 23:03 PDT Rated: |
Hello Benpark22, What an excellent question. Something I have wondered about for many years. The short answer to your question is YES. Before going further we need to consider what is meant by "beauty". This is always a bit awkward when it comes to modern human beings. But it is this defintion that is what you are asking. As you noted, there does seem to be a universal sense of beauty. Ultimately beauty seems to be defined by symmetry. A useful overview of the issues of female beauty can be found at http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology/b103/f01/web1/ekanayake.html This also discusses a little about the waist to hip ratio issue. But how did we get to this? There are a couple of theories. One main principle is that a when selecting a mate especially within in human populations one key feature is the ability to nuture and protect the young. The classic example is the waist to hip ratio of a woman probably says something about her ability to carry off-spring. But with regard to more subtle issues, particularly of facial features, the connection is less clear. One aspect of facial beauty (also of body beauty overall) is symmetry. There is some evidence to suggest that symmetry of body indicates the level of health of the individual. One major health factor for many animals is what the parasite load of an individual is. A key piece of research related to this can be found by Anders Pape Møller "There is considerable evidence for secondary sexual characters in a wide variety of organisms reliably reflecting levels of parasite infections (Møller 1990), and studies of a diverse array of plants and animals show that parasites render their hosts more asymmetric and hence less attractive than unparasitized individuals (Møller 1996). This is also the case in humans: Men throughout the cultures of the world value female beauty higher than any other attribute, but the importance of beauty is the highest in cultures with serious impact of parasites such as malaria, schistosomiasis and similarly virulent parasites (Gangestad and Buss 1993). " the orginal source is at http://www.mindship.org/moller.htm With regard to the specifics of facial beauty of females ( and possibly males too ) there is an excellent list of scientific papers located at: http://digilander.libero.it/linguaggiodelcorpo/beauty/ Aspects of facial bone structure also may allow for subconcious measurement of symmetry of a person and be able to get a sense of how healthy they are. There was a series on the BBC about the human face that may provide even more insight and this can be found at: http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/humanbody/humanface/index.shtml However all is not lost. Here is an easy to read article from NewScientist magazine that suggests that being ugly at may be a useful reproductive strategy http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991239 Also from newscientist there is some evidence that beauty wins out over youth in the partner selection game of life http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns9999940 But in conclusion it is likely that male(or female) perception of female beauty is a result of evolution to suggest something about the overall health of person. Beauty is selected for because it gives the greatest chance of healthy off-spring in the most effient way. Well I hope this goes someway to answering your question. Should you require any clarifications please don't hesitate to ask and I would be happy to research/translate further. kind regards rcd-ga google search strategy: "female beauty" selection evolution "facial beauty" selection evolution | |
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The answerer certainly knows a lot of it. I didn't expect the parasite load plays an import role. That is something to learn. |
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Re: beauty and evolution
From: ldcdc-ga on 08 Aug 2002 23:07 PDT |
It's strange what happens to me lately... I lost my lock again... Here's my version of answering you question. But this one is for free.. hehe " Hi. To answer your first question, yes, beauty seems to have a role evolution. But so does evolution in beauty. How did we get to this is not a question with a precise answer. It is certainly something that something that is related to our species. You say that the standards of beauty seem to be universal across races and cultures. There is something true in what you say but not quite. For example, in the begining of the 20th certury, women beauty contest were won by persons that nowadays we would call fat. Even Marilyn Monroe was rather fat, but the general oppinion was that's how a beautiful lady should look like. Take for comparison today's top models. They are very slim. Yes, you might argue that their faces are still beautiful. And yes, they are. But I'm sure I will never think of Marilyn to be as beautiful as my grandfather thought her to be when she was still alive. Science (begining perhaps with Leonardo da Vinci) statistically proved that beauty is simetrical. And science also proved that certain proportions are beautiful. For example a waist/hip ratio of 0.7 in women is believed to be perfect. Men from all over the world identified women with this ration to be beautiful. I saw on Discovery Channel one man from an amazonian tribe chosing this ratio and explaining that he chose it because the woman looked like she could have many healthy children. It seems that being close to nature (and far from civilisation and the Internet) keeps your mind clear when it comes to chosing a wife. :o) Here are some good page you should to read about symetry in humans: http://www.yestheyrefake.net/ideal_beauty.htm http://www.yestheyrefake.net/ideal_beauty2.htm http://www.geocities.com/evolvedthinking/evolutionary_psychology.htm http://www.comp.leeds.ac.uk/seth/research/symmetry.html Scientists proved that simetrical presons are healthier. This means that we chose right when we chose beautiful, because we chose in fact healthy and this is good for the species. Oh! And a 0.7 waist/hip ratio means an easier birth for the woman. So those are the main reasons for chosing beauty. But why do men primarely select upon beauty and not upon other qualities like women do? Women choose men that have power. They also seek men that treat them with kindness (perhaps so because they are the ones who help them raize the young). Men biologically seek for more than one sexual partner, so they must've needed a method to choose very rapidly the right mate. And what they were able to do was to see their potential partners and select the one that seamed healthier and Younger. I haven't seen many old and seek women that are also beautiful. And I guess I will not see many very soon. Conclusion: beauty allows us to select the best possible mate so that our children will be healhy and live long lives. Establishing exactly how beauty standards (symetry and certain proportions) appeared is a question that science doesn't have an exact answer for yet! Until it will have one, we can learn what is already known. Here are some links (it's quite a lot to read): This is a page about a project in "Beauty and Evolution" that features some good links to go to. Lucky me! :o) http://www.people.virginia.edu/~haidtlab/101/handouts.dir/beauty.html Perhaps the best page that was able to find on the subject: http://www.umkc.edu/sites/hsw/other/evolution.html A good website about evolution: http://www.evoyage.com/ http://www.evoyage.com/beauty.htm http://www.evoyage.com/BillsEssays/male.html Social Basis of Human Behavior: Sex - by Richard F. Taflinger http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~taflinge/socsex.html Men, Women, Sex And Darwin February 21, 1999, Sunday Magazine Desk by Natalie Angier http://www.evoyage.com/menwomensex.htm Biological Basis of Sex Appeal - by Richard F. Taflinger http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~taflinge/biosex1.html A very good and very lond article called "Evolutionary Psychology: A Primer" and written by Leda Cosmides & John Tooby http://www.psych.ucsb.edu/research/cep/primer.html A site that tries to answer to the question: is evolution a fact or Creation is the truth? http://emporium.turnpike.net/C/cs/ A good list a FAQs on Evolutionary Psychology http://www.anth.ucsb.edu/projects/human/evpsychfaq.html A big list of links to sites related to Evolutionary Psychology http://directory.google.com/Top/Science/Social_Sciences/Psychology/Evolutionary_Psychology/ Google search terms: "beauty and evolution" human -chords "beauty and evolution" I hope this answers your question. A note: before deciding to ask for a refund or to give my answer a bad rating please post a "clarify request". I'll do my best to make you happy by finding the information that you need. Good luck! ldcdc-ga " |
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Re: beauty and evolution
From: snapanswer-ga on 09 Aug 2002 01:07 PDT |
I think that you would find these books useful in your investigation of this topic. Summaries and reviews are available from the links provided: The Beauty Myth: How Images of Beauty Are Used Against Women by Naomi Wolf http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0385423977/ Argues that standards of beauty are thrust upon society through the media. Survival of the Prettiest : The Science of Beauty by Nancy L. Etcoff http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0385478542/ "Survival of the Prettiest argues persuasively that looking good has survival value, and that sensitivity to beauty is a biological adaptation governed by brain circuits shaped by natural selection." I am currently unable to escape the notion that standards of beauty change over time, which might indicate that, in addition to any evolutionary or genetic basis for beauty, we are conditioned to find certain people beautiful. Also, some people differ in who they deem beautiful, though norms can be documented. For example, compare voluptuous film stars and "pin-ups" from the first half of the 20th century, to "Twiggy" or Goldie Hawn in the 1960's, to today's Sports Illustrated swimsuit model. The further one travels back in time, the more variety in the standard of beauty one will discover. Bombshells: Jayne Mansfield http://www.bombshells.com/jayne/gallery/color/index.shtml Swingin' Chicks: Twiggy http://www.swinginchicks.com/twiggy.htm Sports Illustrated: Heidi Klum http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/2002/swimsuit/gallery/heidi/6.html I hope you find this information useful in your exploration of this topic. |
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Re: beauty and evolution
From: filian-ga on 09 Aug 2002 10:07 PDT |
Women also prefer handsome men, though this has been downplayed in mainstream culture. My own theory suggests that men don't want to be seen as ornamental and have to measure up to a woman's standards, so he compensates for his looks with money, job, etc. Women today strive for the "hanger" look that fashion models possess. Men and women alike don't immediately recognize or understand the reason behind the very slim look (especially unnaturally slim or "boyish" hips on a female) comes from the fashion industry itself where women are paid to be walking hangers. Clothing must drape a certain way, and clothing is the number one priority. Therefore the clothing takes precedence and a designer won't want a woman's natural features such as breasts, hips, etc. "marring" the line a dress would have when on a hanger. In the survival of the fittest, biology would dictate that men seek women without very slim hips because of their inability to properly carry children. But the media today has heavily influenced society in what it believe is the "right" and "good" way to look. Thus Marilyn Monroe is being called "fat" today (a misnomer when you are comparing a "human female" with a "female hanger")and Courteney Cox (who is gaunt, drawn and feeble looking) is seen as the embodiment of health and good fortune. The only other theory I hold is that slim women are seen as weaker by males and thus easier to dominate. Larger, more robust women are seen as "masculine" and therefore a challenge to the fragile male ego. Items such as high heels and corsets were/are also used to keep women subdued. A woman can not outrun an attacker in high heels and heels as well as corsets present harm to the bones, back, legs, and internal organs. Beauty still is in the eye of the beholder. I personally don't believe "beauty" is evolutionary but the concept of beauty as maintained and fed by the massive media surely is. If we were looking at things from a survival standpoint, beauty doesn't save your life in and of itself, but a "beautiful" woman would be more protected, such as a fine item or an "ivory box" (to quote from E.M. Forster) would be protected. Thus woman is seen as thing, as ornament, while man continues to be seen only as instrument. Women's desires for a Brad Pitt over a Michael Douglas are often ignored, and this we have media rife with images of morbidly obese, old, balding, "ugly" men often paired with slim, young, "beautiful" women. The question is, why has evolution/men continued to ignore women's desires? And why aren't more attractive men seen from a biological standpoint as having stronger potential children and virility? |
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