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Subject: road traffic and transit data online
Category: Business and Money > eCommerce
Asked by: dansd-ga
List Price: $50.00
Posted: 25 May 2005 09:18 PDT
Expires: 24 Jun 2005 09:18 PDT
Question ID: 525454
Please find online sources of *real time* traffic and transit data
(e.g., http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/trafficinfo/)for major metropolitan
areas in the US and Canada.

I'm considering offering a service for commuters and need to find
online sources of *real time* data.

While I'm interested in knowing about online commuter alert services
that send traffic data to commuters (e.g., www.metrocommute.com,
www.traffic.com, www.beatthetraffic.com), I need to find online
sources for "raw data".

Thanks.

Request for Question Clarification by websearcher-ga on 25 May 2005 10:10 PDT
Hi dansd:

Finding the real-time traffic data source for individual cities in
North America would be a gargantuan task for any Researcher and a
massive headache for you as the data user - since everyone would
likely have different data formats. The best way to go is to sign up
with a company that already has a data-aggregation and
data-standardization process in place.

I have done some very thorough searching for you and have come to the
conclusion that there is currently only *one* aggregation company out
there that meets *all* your needs:

TrafficCast
URL: http://www.trafficcast.com/index.html
Quote: "TrafficCast (www.trafficcast.com) is the only firm that
generates personalized, route-specific real-time and predictive
traffic and travel time information for the entire United States. The
firm provides current and predicted travel times for more than 400,000
miles coast to coast including Interstate highways, other expressways,
and major arterials. By fusing historic traffic patterns, 'live'
traffic information, weather forecasts, construction and event
schedules with accident reports, TrafficCast provides value today, but
also has laid the foundation for tomorrow's business in telematics,
routing and dispatching, and other location-based consumer and
commercial services....
Real-time and predicted travel time information can be delivered in
various forms. Through its TrafficCast Channel, the firm acts as a
wholesaler to provide real-time and predicted travel time and traffic
data to business customers, enabling them to deliver personalized
travel solutions to end-users via the Internet, wireless, and
in-vehicle devices."

Now, that bit about "entire United States" concerned me - what about Canada?

Their Service page, however indicates that they do indeed have data
for Canada too.

Data Products and Services
URL: http://www.trafficcast.com/services/service.html
Quote: "For the United States and Canada, TrafficCast provides current
and predicted travel time and traffic data, and interfaces (location
tables and translation tables) between the TrafficCast data and major
commercial map databases. TrafficCast's data feeds are designed to
efficiently drive the emerging location-based applications of its
clients."

As I hinted at earlier, I looked for competitors of TrafficCast's, but
was unable to find any that offered:

* U.S. and Canada coverage
* internet based data-feeds
* raw-data feeds

Please let me know if this information is sufficient as an answer. 

Thanks. 

websearcher

Clarification of Question by dansd-ga on 25 May 2005 15:17 PDT
Thanks, websearcher, for your efforts. TrafficCast seems like a great
source for road traffic. I'm also interested in online info about
transit delays (e.g., subways, trains, buses) in major metropolitan
areas. Can you help me find these sites?

Thanks.

Request for Question Clarification by websearcher-ga on 25 May 2005 15:32 PDT
Hi dansd:

Thanks for the clarification. I'm glad you like the TrafficCast
offerings. I, too, thought they were ideal for your purposes. They
seem to be the one company that online companies go to for this sort
of raw data. If you want to see some of the clients they've serviced,
just do the following search:

Google: trafficcast agreement
URL: ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=trafficcast+agreement

I will get to work later tonight on trying to find you the transit information. 

websearcher

Clarification of Question by dansd-ga on 25 May 2005 17:43 PDT
Thanks for the link to the TrafficCast agreement search. It's also helpful. 

And I appreciate your searching for transit info.
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Subject: Re: road traffic and transit data online
Answered By: websearcher-ga on 25 May 2005 19:42 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hello dansd:

I have done further searching for real-time online transit schedule
(adherance) data. I'm afraid that what I've found may not be
particularly encouraging for whatever application you are planning....

Basically, only a small percentage (< 1%) of centers in the U.S. have
an online real-time transit system *at all*. Those that do have it:

* don't use the same data formats/conventions
* don't appear to provide this data "raw" to the public or companies
(at least there's no mention of such access).

The most authoritative source I was able to find for online transit
information was Transitweb, from the U.S. Department of
Transportation:

Transitweb - A Website Design and Traveler Information Resource for
Transit Agencies
URL: http://www.transitweb.its.dot.gov/Introduction.asp

They have a compete listing of all transit websites in the country. I
went to their search by "Website Feature" page:

URL: http://www.transitweb.its.dot.gov/Search_Features.asp

and chose "Search Sites By Specific Features" then chose "Real-time
Information". The result of the search was that only *10* locations in
the entire U.S. have and use such real-time data.

* Regional Transportation District (RTD) - Denver, Boulder, and
Longmont, CO - Demand Response, Light Rail, Motorbus
* Central Coast Area Transit (CCAT) - San Luis Obispo, CA - Motorbus  
* New Hyannis Transportation Center (The Breeze) - Cape Cod, MA -
Demand Response, Motorbus, Trolley
* Chittenden County Transportation Authority (CCTA), Burlington, VT - Motorbus  
* Westmoreland Transit - Greensburg, PA - Demand Response, Motorbus  
* Stanford University Marguerite Shuttle - Stanford, CA - Demand
response, Motorbus
* Glendale Beeline - Glendale, CA - Demand Response, Motorbus  
* Doylestown Dart - Doylestown, PA - Motorbus  
* King County Metro - Seattle, WA - Demand Response, Motorbus, Light
Rail, Trolleybus, Vanpool
* Georgetown University Transportation Shuttle - Washington, DC - Motorbus  

(If you do the actual search yourself, you will get links to each of
these systems as well.)

These sites include all the ones I had found independently before I
got to the DOT site. Honestly, none of these sites seems to have a
very "rich" data set from which they are working....

Transitweb also did a National Summary of online transit site
features, and "Real-time information" was listed as only being
available on 1% of existing sites (and how many places don't have
sites at all?!).

National Summary: This table summarizes website features and frequency
of occurance for all transit agency sites reviewed.
URL: http://www.transitweb.its.dot.gov/Result_Nation.asp

While this news may be discouraging, at least I was able to find that
there are agencies trying to tackle some of the important issues of
standardization between transit data systems so that - in the future -
systems can communicate with each other:

National Transportation Communications for ITS Protocol
URL: http://ntcip.org/

There are companies that are tackling the issues of providing transit
systems with the technologies they need to gather and disseminate
real-time transit information:

NextBus
URL: http://www.nextbus.com/corporate/index.htm

DART First State Launches Leading Edge Real-Time "NextBus" Info and
Satellite-Based AVL Bus Locator Systems to Aid Transit Rider
Convenience and Safety
URL: http://www.dartfirststate.com/news/nextbus.html

However, these companies do little or nothing to see that *every*
transit system provides interoperable data. (Of course, they'd love to
sell every transit system their products, thereby creating a de facto
standard - the old Microsoft trick - but that may be VERY wishful
thinking.)

Another paper I found that might be of interest:

The Use of Wireless Internet Service to Access Real-Time Transit Information
URL: http://www.its.washington.edu/pubs/wc02-mybus.pdf

So, overall I'd have to say that access to online raw data for transit
systems is lightyears behind similar systems for general road/highway
traffic arteries. My personal opinion is that it might take the larger
North American transit system and the technology companies that
service it at least 5 - 10 years to get to the place where
road/highway traffic systems currently are, with respect to raw data
compatibility and accesibility.

I hope that you can use this information to make your proposed service
even better and that it doesn't put too large a crimp in your plans.

Search Strategy (on Google):
* "real time" "traffic data
* "real time" "traffic data" raw
* traffic "data feed"
* TrafficCast
* trafficcast traffic data
* trafficcast competitors
* "real time" subway bus train 
* "real time" subways busses trains
* "real time" transit data
* NextBus Information Systems 
+ a host of searches on companies that didn't pan out

websearcher
dansd-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $10.00
Outstanding effort. Directly on-point answers.

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