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Subject: Graphing Ebbinghaus' Curve in Excel
Category: Computers > Graphics
Asked by: mshannon-ga
List Price: $15.00
Posted: 26 May 2005 14:43 PDT
Expires: 25 Jun 2005 14:43 PDT
Question ID: 526052
I need to produce a graph in Excel for use in a PowerPoint
presentation that displays Ebbinghaus' Curve of Forgetting for the
first value and then the effect of regular review on the curve for the
second value. The
URL for what I would like to duplicate is at
http://www.jficm.anzca.edu.au/modules/1_Revision.htm and it is at
Figure 3. The actual values for the Ebbinghaus curve, which I also
want incorporated are at
http://www2.psych.purdue.edu/~ben/285su2001/notes/figures/5-forgettingcurve.htm.
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Subject: Re: Graphing Ebbinghaus' Curve in Excel
From: rion-ga on 26 May 2005 16:49 PDT
 
all you want to do is plot 10 points on a graph and connect it with a
nice smooth line in excel? or is it more complicated than that and i
just dont see it? if its not then give me a way to send you the excel
file and i will.
Subject: Re: Graphing Ebbinghaus' Curve in Excel
From: mshannon-ga on 27 May 2005 07:18 PDT
 
Thank you for your comment. 

There are two difficulties with the graph. The first is the
Ebbinghaus' Curve itself. The graph extends over 31 days, but the
first data points are crowded into 20 minutes; 1 hour; 9 hours; 1 day;
2 days. The next point is at 6 days and then a final point at 31 days.
So I am at a loss as to how to scale the graph so that the 6 data
points display in a readable fashion on a PowerPoint slide.

The other, and probably larger complication is the review line. If you
will take a glance at the second URL you'll see what I mean. You have
the Ebbenghaus line and then above it are shorter curves lines that
illustrate how review of data helps in memory retention. I don't have
a clue as to how you would tell either Excel or Microsoft Graph how to
plot that.

If I'm complicating something that is really quite simple, please let
me know. If you see a way to solve this, I can let you know how to
send the file.

Again, thanks for you suggestion.
Subject: Re: Graphing Ebbinghaus' Curve in Excel
From: rion-ga on 27 May 2005 07:43 PDT
 
okay so the data is close at the beginning, and father appart at the
end. after looking at the graph i made (i just converted everything to
minutes) do you really need to show after 20 days? i mean it is pretty
straight after that. in any case you can just have a smooth trendline
that should show your case for you. For the second graph, i couldn't
find any data points to go by. my first idea would be to graph it as a
serries of sepparate lines, so that you could put nice trendlines to
make it smooth.
Subject: Re: Graphing Ebbinghaus' Curve in Excel
From: biophysicist-ga on 27 May 2005 08:40 PDT
 
Rather than doing an x-y plot (since your x values aren't evenly
spaced), you could do a line plot.  Then use the x values as "x axis
labels".
Subject: Re: Graphing Ebbinghaus' Curve in Excel
From: mshannon-ga on 31 May 2005 09:21 PDT
 
I agree, I don't need the data after six days. But I'll be danged if I
understand how to make the plot. You are dealing with a poor writer
here who is remarkably math-ignorant. I still don't understand how to
enter the information...
Subject: Re: Graphing Ebbinghaus' Curve in Excel
From: bumblebeebzzz-ga on 27 Jun 2005 16:31 PDT
 
On the Purdue site, the lables and arrows were put in after the chart
was made, probably with text boxes and arrows.

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