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Subject:
How to address a Marine Captain onboard a US Navy ship?
Category: Reference, Education and News > Education Asked by: praetorious-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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28 May 2005 17:57 PDT
Expires: 27 Jun 2005 17:57 PDT Question ID: 526772 |
Hi there. How would one address a Marine Captain while Marines are stationed onboard a US Navy ship? If the Navy Captain is the "Captain" then what or how is the Marine Captain addressed? Also, would you cite your source? Thanks! | |
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Re: How to address a Marine Captain onboard a US Navy ship?
Answered By: pinkfreud-ga on 28 May 2005 20:58 PDT |
I'm glad to have been able to help. I have reposted my findings below. I did not find any offical U.S. military sources that deal with this issue, but in matters of custom and tradition rather than of military law, official sources are often lacking. "An Army or Marine captain is ranked three steps lower than a navy Captain. If an army Captain is aboard a naval vessel, he is never referred to by his rank but instead referred to as 'Major' to eliminate any possibility of confusion with the nautical captain of the vessel." Explain This: Captain http://www.explainthis.info/ca/captain.html "There is an old Naval Tradition when an Army/Marine 'Captain' is aboard a ship he's addressed as Major." Post from rec.arts.startrek.current newsgroup http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.arts.startrek.current/msg/b9b44c1a20c5eaa5?hl=en "The Marines use army rank - Major, Captain, Lieutenant, Sergeant, Corporal, Marine (not Private or Soldier). A Marine Captain serving afloat has the courtesy title of 'Major' (to avoid confusion with that august being, The Captain)." The Miniatures Page: "Question: Ship Crew titles?" Topic http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=43540 Captain Aart and Commander Bast made their way to Marine Country via lift. The area where the thirty Fleet Marines lived and worked was near the aft end of the starship close to the Akagi's valuable engineering room and boat bays. 'I have a short-platoon of Fleet Marines assigned to the Akagi mostly for internal security and boarding actions.' Captain Aart explained. 'The platoon is commanded by Captain Connopo Brionii, we refer to him as Major Brionii onboard to avoid confusion. Of course you know that Force Commander.' Captain Aart smiled teasingly at the new senior marine officer." Freeland Traveller: The New Beginning - Part II http://www.freelancetraveller.com/features/stories/road2glory/newbeg02.html "Since the commander of any kind of ship, whatever his rank, is formally called the 'Captain' of the ship, no other person on the ship can be called 'Captain.' Thus, a Captain in a Marine contingent on a ship would be addressed as 'Major' to avoid confusion." The Proceedings of the Friesian School: Military Rank http://www.friesian.com/rank.htm My Google search strategy: Google Web Search: "marine captain" "addressed as" navy OR naval OR ship OR vessel ://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22marine+captain%22+%22addressed+as%22+navy+OR+naval+OR+ship+OR+vessel I hope this is useful! If anything is unclear or incomplete, please request clarification; I'll gladly offer further assistance before you rate my answer. Best regards, pinkfreud |
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Re: How to address a Marine Captain onboard a US Navy ship?
From: waukon-ga on 28 May 2005 23:06 PDT |
"An Army or Marine captain is ranked three steps lower than a navy Captain". Navy ranks go like this. Ensign, lt jg, 1st lt, lt commander, commander captain. Six ranks. Army ranks. 2nd lt, 1st lt, captain, major, lt colonel, colonel. But a Navy Captain is more than an Army Colonel, by virtue of naval law, the Law of the High Seas. A captain is a flag officer, whereas the Army really does not do 'flag officer' bits. The Navy has been trying for years to differentiate the two kinds of the one-star admiral. They first tried to bring back 'Commodore', but this got shot down. Then they tried 'Rear Admiral, Lower Division', but 'rear admiral' is already a gay joke, and 'lower division' makes it even funnier. The Navy has one more degree of officerhood, and the army and air force resent the idea that a full admiral should have a circlet of five stars. |
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Re: How to address a Marine Captain onboard a US Navy ship?
From: myoarin-ga on 29 May 2005 15:00 PDT |
Hello Waukon, The last ten days, you've been charging in like Blücher, as the Germans say. The info about naval officers is not really pertinent to this question, and I don't think it agrees with the that shown by this site: http://www.military-quotes.com/ranks/navy-rank-insignia.htm I don't know if you noticed, but Randycoy-ga canceled that question about customer service - just while I was typing a comment. Since this question has been very satisfactorily answered, I trust that no one will object to my posting it here: "Hi Randycoy, Waukon sort of forgot about the Golden Rule for a moment. (I used to post comments like that till I learned to try to stick the subject, especially when I see that a question is "seriously" priced.)" Some in the community may be nodding about the last sentence. No hard feelings, not towards anyone with a Norwegian grandmother :-) See you around, Myoarin |
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