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Subject: thermoplastic
Category: Science > Chemistry
Asked by: samiam-ga
List Price: $200.00
Posted: 29 May 2005 03:06 PDT
Expires: 28 Jun 2005 03:06 PDT
Question ID: 526904
I'm searching for a material with roughly the same properties as
hot-applied thermoplastic road marking paint, but is manufactured in
an injection molding grade. Most importantly, it must bond aggresively
to concrete or bitumen on application of heat. Please provide the name
of the material/compound and the supplier.

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 29 May 2005 05:18 PDT
samian-ga,

I'm not sure I understand your question.

As far as I know, injection molding is used to make discrete parts --
a fender, perhaps -- but the parts don't ordinarily bond to anything. 
In fact, one desirable property for an injection-molding material is
that it NOT bond to the mold itself.

Beyond that, there are many materials that will bond well to concrete.
 Mostly, these are applied like paint.  I'm not sure what you had in
mind when you mentioned "application of heat" -- do you want to
heat-apply the material to concrete, or do you want it to be able to
withstand heat after application, or do you not want it to form a bond
until heated?


Can you explain a bit more about what you're after, here?

Thanks,

pafalafa-ga

Clarification of Question by samiam-ga on 29 May 2005 16:54 PDT
Although injection moulding is typically used to make parts that do
not bond to anything particularily the mould itself,

1)I wish to injection mould a discreet product, 
2)be able to remove that product from the mould, 
3)apply heat to  surface, and 
4)have the moulded product adhere to the heated surface, without
having to add an adhesive material. i.e. when the product is placed on
top of a heated surface, it softens then bonds to the surface after
cooling.

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 29 May 2005 17:18 PDT
Pretty interesting scheme...I've never heard of doing anything with
injection molding quite like this (but then again, I'm no expert...!).

Speaking of experts, I don't know if I'd be able to find a material to
fit your specs.  I suspect you will need a real professional to tell
you what material to use, or even if such a thing is possible.

Would you consider -- as an answer to your question -- having a list
of such experts who you could contact for additional information.  You
would probably need to hire one of them on a short-term consulting
basis, but I really do think that only an injection-molding specialist
would be able to steer you in the right direction on this one.

Let me know what you think.

pafalafa-ga

Request for Question Clarification by adiloren-ga on 30 May 2005 01:19 PDT
Would this work?

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/5693691.html

Contact Info:
Brewer Science
http://www.brewerscience.com/main.html

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 02 Jun 2005 14:26 PDT
samian-ga,

Just chekcing in...Do you have any thoughts about the latest few
clarification requests that have been posted above?

Let us know.

paf
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Subject: Re: thermoplastic
Answered By: leapinglizard-ga on 05 Jun 2005 15:25 PDT
 
Dear samiam,


An ideal material for your application would be a thermoplastic urethane
or TPU. Some TPU compounds are soft and some are meant specifically
as adhesives, but a broad selection of TPU compounds are hard, tough,
and well suited for injection molding. Furthermore, TPUs in general 
are known to bond strongly with a wide variety of substrates and with
concrete in particular.


One rigid TPU resin, known as Isoplast, is manufactured by the Dow 
Chemical Company. You will want to consult with a Dow salesman to
determine which grade of Isoplast is best for your purposes.

Dow: ISOPLAST Engineering Thermoplastic Polyurethane Resins
http://www.dow.com/engineeringplastics/prod/na/iso.htm


Another TPU that is readily injection-molded and highly adhesive is 
Bayer's Desmopan resin. Desmopan is available in a variety of grades
ranging from pliable to rigid, so again you'll want to consult with a
Bayer supplier to find the best one for you.

Bayer Material Science: Desmopan
http://www.bayermaterialsciencenafta.com/products/index.cfm?mode=grades&pp_num=EB7C5742-0773-8282-C900515838BF5E27&o_num=6


I would venture to guess that of these two products, Desmopan is better
suited to the process you have in mind.


Regards,

leapinglizard
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