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Subject:
Providing a For Profit service that uses GPL software.
Category: Computers > Software Asked by: motorbikematt-ga List Price: $5.00 |
Posted:
02 Jun 2005 01:07 PDT
Expires: 02 Jun 2005 15:33 PDT Question ID: 528456 |
Hi there, I am interested in knowing if a For-Profit company may sell analytical results from programs that are covered by the GPL or LGPL. To provide an explanatory hypothetical situation, let's imagine a GPL program, "RootSquare", that is capable of calculating square-roots very quickly and precisely. However, RootSquare is not user friendly and therefore not many people use it, despite its value. The problem is that Joe Schmoe cannot invest the time to learn how to install, setup, and use RootSquare A For-Profit company, "SmartNerds INC.", has a bunch of smart nerds who know how to use the RootSquare program very well. Moreover, SmartNerds INC. knows a lot of people willing to pay them for the square roots of their special numbers. So to ask my question again, but framed in this hypothetical example: Does the GPL prohibit SmartNerds INC. from selling the results of the "RootSquare" program? *** I have read the GPL and other resources online, and I do not see good answer for this scenario. To be clear, SmartNerds INC is NOT CODING any software, is NOT selling hardware, and is NOT selling advice on how to use RootSquare. SmartNerds INC. is ONLY selling the results from the RootSquare program and perhaps an explanatory text on how their result was determined. Lastly, SmartNerds INC has no relationship to the creators of RootSquare Thanks! Matt |
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Re: Providing a For Profit service that uses GPL software.
From: bozo99-ga on 02 Jun 2005 05:36 PDT |
FSF says GPL s/w may be used for any purpose, including commercial. The only restrictions the GPL places on your conduct involve you distributing the s/w. http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html |
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Re: Providing a For Profit service that uses GPL software.
From: barchibald-ga on 02 Jun 2005 08:26 PDT |
Absolutely! An analogous example would be writing a book on an open-source word-processing software and then selling it. The GPL'd license of the word processor would not extend to my book. For another example, I use open-source software to maintain my code-base for software. But...having done that and even though it is critical element to my own software's development, the software I develop is not bound by the GPL license of the source-control system. The GPL covers modifications of the source and licenses that cover a redistribution of the software. Your activities - as described above - are clearly not infringing on the letter or the spirit of the GPL. |
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Re: Providing a For Profit service that uses GPL software.
From: motorbikematt-ga on 02 Jun 2005 09:32 PDT |
Ok, two postive responses.. but I am not sure if the answer is yet here (though bozo99's answer may be worth the 5 bucks) To address bozo99 (though I have not fully read the FSF site), can you quote the verbiage that would permit SmartNerds INC to sell the results of RootSquare's analysis (an arguement for which this belongs to the orignal author I could imagine)? However, to address barchibald, I am not sure, YET, if I agree that a word processor would be analogous. If a book were written in Microsoft Word, they wouldn't have any claim to your book, either. I am not sure if that analogue is correct due to a function of the GPL, or general copyright or other Intellectual property rules. In my example, RootSquare does a very specilized function that SmartNerds INC. did not create, add upon, or modify. SmartNerds INC. only knows how to use the program and wants to sell this expertise as a service. Granted, this seems to have an obvious answer, however, I am looking for the text that offers this release...I cannot find it in the GPL (HOWEVER, I am no legal expert, so perhaps if someone just cut and pasted the specific line and explained it, that may suffice) Thanks |
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Re: Providing a For Profit service that uses GPL software.
From: motorbikematt-ga on 02 Jun 2005 10:41 PDT |
>(an arguement for which this belongs to the orignal author I could imagine)? Whoa, sorry for the Yoda-speak there. The concern here is that the square-root analysis and the method employed by RootSquare is not brain child of SmartNerds INC, but of the original Author. To bring in a little reality to this discussion, SmartNerds INC is very interested in supporting and propagating the use of open-source software for certain kinds of analyses. The problem is, that some 'open-source' warez have specific licenses for different end-users (i.e. commericial versus educational, academic, & government, etc.) Granted, the original author has released all claims to profit by going GPL, and SmartNerds INC strongly desires to fullly acknowledge the author and contribuitors, but as a ForProfit company, SmartNerds INC is also interested in making as much money as reasonably possible. |
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Re: Providing a For Profit service that uses GPL software.
From: bozo99-ga on 02 Jun 2005 13:01 PDT |
Your question was about GPL and LGPL. Those licences apply equally to any users and any purpose for those that choose to accept them - government, commercial whatever. I find the FSF page linked to quite unambiguous and anyone having trouble with that won't be invited to find my square roots. Studying a range of other licences is obviously a different question. There was a different licence with "your own use is OK, but no providing this as consultancy" sort of licence with the TIS FWTK for instance. |
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Re: Providing a For Profit service that uses GPL software.
From: motorbikematt-ga on 02 Jun 2005 15:30 PDT |
Ok, fair enough, bringing up commercial vs gov't in the context of GPL & LGPL is too broad. Having now read the FSF site bozo99 sent, I think it is pretty clear that SmartNerds Inc. is free to do what it wants with free software that is under the GPL. Thanks for your help! Matt |
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