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Name of this Movie
Category: Arts and Entertainment > Movies and Film Asked by: redkimono-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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05 Jun 2005 08:51 PDT
Expires: 05 Jul 2005 08:51 PDT Question ID: 529561 |
I am trying to identify the movie that this still image comes from. I bought this 8 x 10 image in Havana, Cuba in 2000. It has the numbers 1746 - 96 (could be 1946 - 96?). Please look at the image here: http://www.humanfauxpas.com/temp/unknown_movie.jpg I am looking for the name and as much information (actors etc) as you can find on this movie, but most importantly are its name (in English as well as original language if other than English) and the country of origin. If you need a higher-resolution image let me know at onlineATadadhannah.com (replace AT with @). Thanks. Adad |
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Re: Name of this Movie
From: myoarin-ga on 05 Jun 2005 16:39 PDT |
Hi Redkimono, I am pretty sure that is Jack Lemmon down front, and it looks to me like a photo from the fifties or sixties. There is a photo of Jack with such a cap on google pictures relating to Irma la Douce, street scene with Billy Wilder (but I would have thought Jack was more slender then, and the blonde dancing doesn't fit in my recollection of the film.) I don't think the photo is a from a film scene. I wanted to think the girl is Kim Novak, but that is just a guess, and does not seem to fit in with the films Jack made. Can anyone take it from there? Myoarin |
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Re: Name of this Movie
From: redkimono-ga on 05 Jun 2005 18:09 PDT |
And the plot thickens...at least this makes me think that an answer is possible;-) Thanks for your efforts. |
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Re: Name of this Movie
From: goodenough-ga on 05 Jun 2005 22:28 PDT |
Looks to me to be Ricardo Montalban playing guitar. Definately not Jack Lemmon (sitting in front) or Kim Novak (blond). Seamed fishnet stockings for the dark haired female dancer & T-strap shoes for the blond woman were worn until early 1960's. The man in the background seems to be dancing with the manaquin. Man with cigarette playing bongo. The pole in the center of the room apparently holding the sheer curtains up as if they were on a stage of sorts ... in this film. |
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Re: Name of this Movie
From: redkimono-ga on 05 Jun 2005 22:40 PDT |
Wow, I can smell an answer coming, thanks for your comments about Ricardo Montalban I will look into that... |
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Re: Name of this Movie
From: czh-ga on 06 Jun 2005 00:22 PDT |
The long haired blond makes me think of Jayne Mansfield or Mamie Van Doren. The feel of the picture brings to mind Melina Mercouri or Anita Ekberg. http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=img&cs=utf8&q=jayne+mansfield&rys=0&itag=crv&o=72 http://images.google.com/images?q=mamie+van+doren&svnum=100&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&start=0&sa=N http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=img&cs=utf8&q=Melina+Mercouri&rys=0&itag=crv http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=img&cs=utf8&q=anita+ekberg&rys=0&itag=crv&o=120 |
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Re: Name of this Movie
From: myoarin-ga on 06 Jun 2005 03:54 PDT |
Yes, I would have to agree, there are a couple favorable points for suggesting that the blonde is Mamie, Anita, or Jayne. |
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Re: Name of this Movie
From: cynthia-ga on 06 Jun 2005 14:08 PDT |
That is definitely Ricardo Montalban playing guitar. I would start here: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001544/ It looks like the 50's to me. |
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Re: Name of this Movie
From: pinkfreud-ga on 06 Jun 2005 14:23 PDT |
The man sitting up front wearing a beret looks to me like Noël Coward. Compare the facial features to this photo of Coward: http://www.born-today.com/Today/pix/coward_n.jpg |
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Re: Name of this Movie
From: myoarin-ga on 06 Jun 2005 17:13 PDT |
Cynthia-ga, that's great site. If that is Ricardo, then the blonde is none of the four suggested, ditto if the chap down front is Jack Lemmon. |
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Re: Name of this Movie
From: pafalafa-ga on 06 Jun 2005 19:14 PDT |
Sorry guys, but I have to disagree across the board. These look like four very obscure actors to me, taking part in an equally obscure production of some sort. Still...one never knows...! |
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Re: Name of this Movie
From: myoarin-ga on 07 Jun 2005 07:20 PDT |
It must be a good question if it stumps four GARs (and not just any four!). I bet Noel Coward never owned a sweatshirt, much less one with cut-off sleeves. |
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Re: Name of this Movie
From: redkimono-ga on 07 Jun 2005 07:48 PDT |
I thought maybe the numbers would be a good clue? Would it help if I posted some facial close-ups? |
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Re: Name of this Movie
From: myoarin-ga on 07 Jun 2005 15:47 PDT |
Hi, I doubt that the numbers can help. 1746 or 1946, the latter cannot be a year from everything else we agree on about the clothing and scene. I still think the chap with the cap is Jack Lemmon, even after trying to compare ear shape. You wouldn't believe how relatively few photos of him are from this ( his left side). He must have thought he looked better from the other side. And while I'm here again, a couple of thoughts: 8 by 10 photo or print, obviously stapled or pinned up somewhere a couple of times, but still in pretty good condition, considering that it may be over 40 years old. From Cuba - out of touch with much of the world since then. Whoever put it on his pinboard and repinned it there, or some subsequent person must have found the picture especially interesting, and there is not enough of the blonde to see to let it qualify as that kind of pinup, So I expect that one, two, or three of the people are not obscure nobodies. A close look at some elements suggests a southern ambiente: the fine bamboo pole and bamboo framed screens in the right background with what seems to be woven split bamboo filling, the (I think) fan under the round dance podium. What does "Jack" have in his right hand? Ricardo came from Mexico, if it is he. As I mentioned, I think the photo is from a rehearsal break, not from an actual film scene (and my comment about "Jack" wearing such a cap was wrong, Billy Wilder was wearing it). I hope someone can help us. Myoarin |
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Re: Name of this Movie
From: redkimono-ga on 07 Jun 2005 19:05 PDT |
I have looked before at the item under the short table, and think it might be an oar (?) which would then make the thing in the older man's hand the matching oar. I am not sure the two poles match, or whether the stripes on the one under the table are shadows, when the stripes on the item in his hand are certainly part of the object. I also just noticed a small black shape over the shoulder of the older man. At first it seems like the top corner of a chair, but there is no chair, he is sitting on the floor or a pillow and leaning against the table. This makes me think that there is an object put behind the older man so that the woman on the table can better hold her pose by resting her foot on this shoebox-sized dark object (I think they call them appleboxes in the film industry). The photographer changed angles and the object was captured (probably by accident) in this photo. If this is true, then it is certainly a staged photograph (which I believe it is anyway). I think the staple marks are from being stapled to the coming attractions wall in a movie theatre. This is getting fun. Again, if anyone needs a clos-up of a particular area let me know. |
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Re: Name of this Movie
From: cynthia-ga on 07 Jun 2005 20:41 PDT |
Try this: Star Links http://www.cs.virginia.edu/oracle/star_links.html I entered Ricardo's name and about 4 women so far. No hit yet, wanna try? ~~Cynthia |
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Re: Name of this Movie
From: czh-ga on 08 Jun 2005 00:30 PDT |
What a tantalizing question this has turned out to be. Here are some further thoughts to tease you. I agree with Pink that the man in front is Noel Coward. I propose further that the picture is from a stage production of his play ?Nude with Violin.? It seems to be a rehearsal shot. http://www.networktheatre.org/prevshows/default.asp?page=nude Nude with Violin - Sept 2000 Network?s September 2000 show was a confection from Noel Coward?s late period. It deals with the problems that arise when a world famous artist dies, revealing as a final joke on his family that he has painted none of the works with which he is credited. The family has not been in contact with him for 25 years and their concerns about how to cover up this potential disaster increase dramatically when the people who did paint the works appear. It is a distinctly light and highly amusing piece, with the characteristic Coward edge beneath the front. Note that the picture you posted has a large painting on the wall that seems to be a collage of several musical instruments. The torso being carried in the background could be a prop for a painting. (It also reminds me of an abstract painting but I haven?t been able to identify it so far.) The more I look at the picture the more I?m convinced that the blond is not anyone well known ? despite my previous suggestion of some famous blonds. Noel Coward Photos http://www.ibdb.com/person.asp?ID=36502 http://www.coolmoviestuff.com/blim_photo1.jpg http://www.coolmoviestuff.com/blim_photos.htm http://www.davidhouston.net/Noel%204%20reduced%20x%204.jpg http://www.songwritershalloffame.org/asset/exhibit/214_img_anchor_home.jpg http://www.publications.bham.ac.uk/birmingham_magazine/b_magazine1996-99/b99_10.jpg http://www.noelcoward.net/ 1956 Coward became a tax exile, giving up residence in England and moving to Bermuda. He made his Carnegie Hall debut narrating Carnival of the Animals. Nude With Violin (1954) produced at the Globe (now the Gielgud) Theatre. Sir John Gielgud understudied Coward and later took over the role. Appeared on American television in Blithe Spirit and This Happy Breed. Revised Home and Colonial for British production of South Sea Bubble. 1957 Starred in American production of Nude With Violin. If you?re still not convinced about Noel Coward, I think the man in the front could also be Jose Ferrer. Jose Ferrer http://www.born-today.com/Today/pix/ferrer_jose.jpg http://www.ibdb.com/production.asp?ID=3048 http://www.alltheweb.com/search?cat=img&cs=utf8&q=%22Jose+Ferrer%22&rys=0&itag=crv&o=0 I hope someone comes up with an answer soon. This is driving me nuts. |
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Re: Name of this Movie
From: cynthia-ga on 08 Jun 2005 01:47 PDT |
Jose Ferrer and Noel Coward are not linked to Ricardo Montalban in the Star Oracle database. (All movies in the IMDB). This is the closest result: The Oracle says: Ricardo Montalban has a Noel Coward number of 2. Ricardo Montalban was in Madame X (1966) with Keir Dullea. Keir Dullea was in Bunny Lake Is Missing (1965) with Noel Coward. |
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Re: Name of this Movie
From: czh-ga on 08 Jun 2005 16:16 PDT |
I don't think the guy in the striped shirt is Ricardo Montalban. Here are some young pictures of him. http://www4.district125.k12.il.us/faculty/ttomaso/WD/WDimages/ricardomontalban.jpg http://scrapbooksofmymind.com/images/image37sombrero.jpg http://scrapbooksofmymind.com/images/image95.jpg http://www.derbydeadpool.co.uk/images/celebs/montar.jpg http://www.briansdriveintheater.com/ricardomontalban.html |
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