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Subject:
question of spelling
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: oggiebear-ga List Price: $2.00 |
Posted:
12 Jun 2005 07:13 PDT
Expires: 12 Jul 2005 07:13 PDT Question ID: 532471 |
Is the phrase "raising cain" or is it "raising cane" when someone is causing trouble? |
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Re: question of spelling
Answered By: justaskscott-ga on 30 Jun 2005 22:08 PDT |
Hello oggiebear, Here are three reputable sources that give "Cain" as the correct spelling: "raise Cain" (The New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy, Third Edition, 2002) Bartleby.com http://www.bartleby.com/59/4/raisecain.html "raise" ["raise Cain or raise hell" near bottom of page] (Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary) Merriam-Webster Online http://www2.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/mwdictsn?book=Dictionary&va=raise "Cain" MSN Encarta http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_1861594027/Cain.html - justaskscott Search strategy -- Searched on Google for: "raising cain" dictionary "raise cain" dictionary [If you substitute "cane" for "cain" in these searches, you won't find similarly reputable results.] |
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Re: question of spelling
From: kottekoe-ga on 12 Jun 2005 08:12 PDT |
The phrase refers to the biblical "Cain". Here is one web page's explanation for the origin: http://www.st-ignatius-loyola.com/trivia/trivia10.html RAISING CAIN Meaning: Causing trouble. Background: The eighteenth century was an age in which children were supposed to be seen and not heard. Parents who raised rowdy, undisciplined children were said to be raising Cains: children who would grow up to be like the biblical Cain (who murdered his brother Abel and then denied responsibility when questioned by God). Over time, "raising cain" came to refer to the act of unruliness, not the child-rearing itself. Also see: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Cain |
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Re: question of spelling
From: kottekoe-ga on 12 Jun 2005 08:16 PDT |
A cautionary note. Etymologies can be very unreliable, especially when pulled off the Internet. Many "folk etymologies" exist that are not supported by documentary evidence. I have no idea whether there is any source documentation to support the claim made in the citation I gave in my first comment. Still, I am quite certain the phrase is a biblical reference and thus spelled "Cain". |
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Re: question of spelling
From: cynthia-ga on 12 Jun 2005 09:01 PDT |
I agree 100% with kottekoe... I went to Boarding School, church EVERY DAY, it's raising CAIN. Plus, here's the Smackdown Results: What's a SMACKDOWN? http://www.onfocus.com/googlesmack/down.asp Don't use quotation marks, the API adds them to all entries that are more than one word. SMACKDOWN: "Raising Cain" vs "Raising Cane" The Results And the undisputed champion is... 1. Raising Cain (9,950) 2. Raising Cane (3,040) Another Challenge? The Details This queries Google via its API and receives the estimated total results for each word or phrase. The smackdown adds quotes to your word or phrase when searching. So if you add quotation marks here, Google will ignore the quotes altogether. ~~Cynthia |
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Re: question of spelling
From: frde-ga on 13 Jun 2005 11:02 PDT |
Just ask Abel |
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