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Subject: I am looking for the manufacture of the following off road motorcycle
Category: Sports and Recreation
Asked by: gwwjr-ga
List Price: $30.00
Posted: 15 Jun 2005 09:19 PDT
Expires: 15 Jul 2005 09:19 PDT
Question ID: 533548
I am looking for the manufacture of the following off road motorcycle
apparel and accessory brands A.R.C and Ocelot. My intention is to
locate the factories to discuss possible distribution in South Africa

Ocelot is currently distributed in the US by http://www.chaparral-racing.com
A.R.C is currently distributed in the US. by http://www.rockymountainatv.com

I have made contact with each of these companies but they have been of
no assistance.

Request for Question Clarification by byrd-ga on 17 Jun 2005 10:06 PDT
Hello Gwwjr-ga,

As you likely already know, Rocky Mountain ATV has trademarked its
A.R.C. (Advanced Rider Coverage)line of products, and Chaparral
Motorsports owns the Ocelot brand of products, which is their own
in-house line.

You say you've already contacted both companies, so you may already
know what I have been able to find out, which is that neither company
will divulge any information as to where their products are
manufactured, as they consider that to be proprietary. They won't even
say where their factories are located, whether in the U.S. or
elsewhere.

However, I have learned that it would be possible for you to arrange
to license the Ocelot brand in South Africa. For the ARC brand, there
is already a South African company that has exclusive rights, but I
have been given contact information for that company in case you would
like to contact them about possible sub-licensing.

If you don't already have, and would be interested in accepting the
contact information for licensing Ocelot products, and also for the SA
company representing ARC as an answer to your question, please let me
know and I'll be glad to post it in the answer box.

Best wishes,
Byrd-ga

Clarification of Question by gwwjr-ga on 17 Jun 2005 10:46 PDT
Hello Byrd, I would be interested in accepting the
contact information for licensing Ocelot products, and also for the SA
company representing ARC as an answer to my question.

Thank you,
gwwjr-ga
Answer  
Subject: Re: I am looking for the manufacture of the following off road motorcycle
Answered By: byrd-ga on 17 Jun 2005 14:58 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hi gwwjr-ga,

Thank you for your clarification.  All right then, here?s the information:

=============================================================================

For the A.R.C. brand, the person to contact in South Africa is:

   Insane Atv
   Tertius Kuijers
   Automotive Division
   Tel: +27  (0)11 979 3494
   Fax: +27  (0)11 979 3457
   Mobile: +27  (0)83 653 5177
   E-mail: tertius@bettacfreight.co.za 

*Note: The +27 and (0)11 or 83 are international calling codes, so you
may not need to use those. If you have any questions about the number
and how it's written, your local telephone company can likely be of
assistance, or see here: http://www.countrycallingcodes.com/

=============================================================================

For the Ocelot brand, ?Greg,? the person I spoke with, said he prefers
to be contacted by email.  The address to use is:
greg@chaparralmotorsports.com
 and he requested that you put ?Looking to License Ocelot? in the subject line. 

=============================================================================

SEARCH STRATEGY:

I learned some interesting information about both these companies
while researching them, so I?ll go ahead and share with you the rest
of what I found in case it may be of some use to you.

------
A.R.C.
------

First of all, Rocky Mountain ATV has registered the name ?A.R.C.
Advanced Rider Coverage? with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.
The link to that information is:
http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=qhp49s.2.10

Secondly, the homepage for the A.R.C. brand of products is here:
http://www.arcgear.com/ which I found by searching on the product
name.

On that page, I noticed the name ?Brandenhause.? Searching for that
name brought up that company?s website, here:
http://www.brandenhause.com . Looking over the information on that
site, it was apparent that this was the main company that handled
worldwide distribution for the A.R.C. brand, and they have a form for
requesting an information packet for potential distributors, here:
http://www.brandenhause.com/form.htm

However, I didn?t want to merely pass along that link without an email
address, so I searched a little further on the name, and found
Brandenhause listed in the Motorcycle Industry Council?s membership
directory, here: http://www.mic.org/members/membership/directory.pdf

   *Note: this file requires Adobe Acrobat Reader to view, so if you don?t have    
    it and would like to read the directory, you can download a free reader 
    here: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

The Brandenhuase entry in the directory gave contact information for
Justin Deschamps, the company?s brand manager, whom I promptly emailed
and who was good enough to reply. For your information, the company?s
mailing address and phone number is:

   1551 American Way
   Payson, UT 84651-4651
   US
   801-465-3140 

It was Mr. Deschamps from whom I received the information that Insane
ATV has exclusive rights in South Africa to the ARC brand, and the
contact information for that company. The email he used in reply to my
inquiry was supplierinfo@brandenhause.com which is different than the
one listed in the directory.

However, since the information he gave me didn?t include a physical
address, I did a little more searching, looking on
://www.google.co.za/ for SA company information, where I found a
link to SA?s CIPRO (Companies and Intellectual Property Registration
Office), here: http://www.cipro.co.za

There I found that Insane AV registered with them in February, 2000.
Here?s the information they have on file:
http://www.cipro.co.za/ccc/EntDet.asp?T1=B2004078935&T2=INSANE%20ATV%20PRODUCTS&T3=2004/078935/23
  
   Private company since 2/11/2000  
   Enterprise number: 2000/027757/07  
   Registered address:

   8 2ND CLOSE OFF MOUNT STREET
   BRYANSTON
   SANDTON
   2021 

   Postal Address: 
   P O BOX 131127
   BRYANSTON
   2021 

===========================================================================

-------
OCELOT
-------

Ocelot was not quite as complex to run down information for. I did
research the name, of course, and came up fairly quickly with the
information that this is the name of the proprietary in-house brand of
Chaparral Motorsports.

See this article from PowerSports Business:
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:16bzfQfLoD8J:https://www.powersportsbusiness.com/output.cfm%3Fid%3D818299+ocelot+brand+offroad+apparel+accessories&hl=en

I then researched the company a bit, using various combinations of the
product and company name, and found that Chaparral Motorsports is the
retail or dba (doing business as) name of a company called Ocelot
Engineering, which turns out to share the same physical address as the
store, in other words this is a large, but localized California
company.  The address is:

   Chaparral Motor Sports
   555 South H Street
   San Bernardino, CA 92410
   US

I then searched the State of California business listing information
and found corporate information for Ocelot Engineering here:
Incorporated 11/2/73, number C0692485 , active as of june 20,2005:
http://kepler.ss.ca.gov/corpdata/ShowAllList?QueryCorpNumber=C0692485
 
And information on the Chaparral Motorsports name, here:
http://www.co.san-bernardino.ca.us/ACR/FBNData.asp?FBNId=0162331

I?ve had a little trouble today with that link loading, so if you?d
like to see and it gives you trouble, try entering the name in the San
Bernardino County search engine yourself, here: 
http://www.sbcounty.gov/acr/FBNSearch.asp

I then checked WhoIs (http://www.whois.sc) for information about the
website, and found the following information:

   Administrative contact:
   Shearer, Greg                    
   phn: (909) 884-0484
   fax: (909) 884-3183 
   greg@chaparral-racing.com

I sent an email to that address, but received no reply. So this
morning I called the toll-free number on the website, 800/841-2960,
and spoke with several people, none of whom could help. However, I was
then given a number for the store, i.e. (909) 889-2761, and told to
ask for the manager. After talking to several more people, I finally
did speak to the store manager, whose name is ?Raj.? He also was
unable to help me, but transferred my call to ?Greg? who gave me the
information above re: licensing.  I do *not* know if he is the same
Greg as the one listed as administrative contact for the website or
not.

=============================================================================

I hope this gives you enough information to pursue your interest in
becoming a distributor for these products in your location. If
anything isn?t clear, please be sure to use the ?Request for
Clarification? feature to ask before rating and closing your question,
as I want to be sure you?re happy with the information given.

This has been an interesting hunt. Thank you for the opportunity, and
best of luck in your venture!

Best regards,
Byrd-ga
gwwjr-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars and gave an additional tip of: $10.00
I was very impressed with this answer.
Thank you for the good job!

Comments  
Subject: Re: I am looking for the manufacture of the following off road motorcycle
From: byrd-ga on 17 Jun 2005 20:05 PDT
 
Dear Gwwjr-ga,

You're very welcome. And thank *you* for the kind words, five stars
and most generous tip! I'm so happy you were pleased!

Best wishes, and good luck to you! 
Byrd-ga

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