How to find amateur female models for self-produced commercial.
Strictly on the up-and-up, a small company wants to create their own
promo commercial.  If anyone remembers the old Multi-Tech Warehouse
Direct guy from the 1980s they know what I mean.  Cost minimization is
paramount.

The concept in today's version requires two female models for an
outdoor stint of up to eight (8) hours.  Budget dictates that company
is not paying large commissions to agents and middlemen and arrangers
and posses.


The Question is considered Answered if a list of two (2) sources of
female models is provided for the greater Toronto area.

please note that a newspaper Help Wanted classified is not acceptable.
It was being considered until I warned the principals that there was a
recent occurrence where a creep lured aspiring photo models to a hotel
still photo-shoot---he's now facing criminal charges.  I suggested
GAT.

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Request for Question Clarification by cynthia-ga on 19 Jun 2005 15:57 PDT

I'm sure there are lots of links like this available...
http://www.hjcphotography.com/board/viewall.html

I don't understand why the principle decided not to use the
classifieds. If the company is legit, there's no reason to worry.

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Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 19 Jun 2005 19:51 PDT

grthumongous-ga,


Have a look at this link and let me know what you think:



http://www.newfaces.com/model-search.php?action=Search&Act=on&AgeLower=15&AgeUpper=30&F=on&hc=&sc=&ec=&c=Canada&s=&ImageType=



These are photos and profiles of actresses in Canada (Toronto and
elsewhere) between the ages of 15 and 30.

Is this sort of listing of any value?  Or were you hoping for a
different sort of approach?  If so, perhaps you can elaborate a bit.

Let me know,

pafalafa-ga

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Clarification of Question by grthumongous-ga on 19 Jun 2005 21:25 PDT

cynthia,
hjc* seems to be on the right track but I think I should have stated
these requirements:

-that the sites provide either photos (headshots are sufficient) or
they provide description.  I notice that some of the sub-links under
hjc* were to amateur models who posted their own service offerings. 
That is good and also quick to inspect.
-strictly Greater Toronto Area; not Ottawa or California.

pafalafa, 
the newfaces link had some under 18s;
-requirement is for 18-38yrs

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Request for Question Clarification by cynthia-ga on 19 Jun 2005 23:40 PDT

Hi again,

Check this link:
http://members4.boardhost.com/photoboard/

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Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 20 Jun 2005 05:11 PDT

You can set the search paramters at NewFace to cover whatever age
range is of interest.  Here are the 18-38 year olds:


http://www.newfaces.com/model-search.php?action=Search&Act=on&AgeLower=18&AgeUpper=38&F=on&hc=&sc=&ec=&c=Canada&s=&ImageType=


Note the "AgeLower" and "AgeUpper" numbers in the URL.


paf

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Clarification of Question by grthumongous-ga on 20 Jun 2005 20:44 PDT

Alright cynthia, I accept your two links as just enough for an
Official Answer but if you could try to find one more link that would
be better.
Sorry Pafalafa, those hits were not really a good fit for the concept.

And Byrd, maybe you suggested approach is more likely to succeed than
one would first envisage.   Overcoming today's burden of mistrust and
wariness could be problematic.  Just as with your friend, these models
could bring their mom and pop or husband and boyfriend too.

Alas, back in the 1960s and 1970s it was a different story; everyone was nice. 
(....remembering hot pants and halter tops.)

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Clarification of Question by grthumongous-ga on 28 Jun 2005 11:38 PDT

Cynthia, are you still out there?

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Request for Question Clarification by cynthia-ga on 28 Jun 2005 12:15 PDT

Yes, sorry I didn't get the usual notification last week, or I missed
it!  So sorry to keep you waiting.  I got this one right away.  Let me
look for another link for you, and then I'll post in the Answer Box.

~~Cynthia

Hi grthumongous,

Thanks for accepting my research as your official answer, I was able
to scape up a couple more good links for you, and I also passed along
the links that were not perfect, but possibly could be useful to
you...


THE FIRST TWO LINKS

Toronto Photography and Modeling Forum
http://www.hjcphotography.com/board/viewall.html

Canadian / Northern US Models and Photographers Message Board
http://members4.boardhost.com/photoboard/

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TWO MORE THAT HAVE AMATUER TORONTO MODELS LISTED

Toronto Black and White's Resource Forum
http://www.tbw99.com/forum.html

Fantasy-Forge's model and photographer Forum
http://www.fantasy-forge.com/forum/

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NOT SURE ABOUT THESE - BUT CHECK THEM OUT

Models Advanced Search
http://www.fashiongates.com/models/advanced-model-search.aspx

Updates and New Faces 
http://p206.ezboard.com/fupdatesandnewfacesfrm1

The Model Files
http://www.themodelfiles.com/
The pointer to this link says the models are amatuers.

My ENtertainment World
JOBS WANTED:  http://myentertainmentworld.com/forums/JobsWanted/index.html
MODELS / MODELING:  http://myentertainmentworld.com/forums/Models/index.html


These are tough to find. I hope this is ok as I have looked through a
couple hundred links!


If I find any more, I'll post them here, so please don't ignore email
notifications from Google Answers..


~~Cynthia


Search Strategy used at Google:
I had the best luck with this:  "model OR modeling forum" toronto
I also used all variations of:  amatuer models female toronto forum

This may not work for you, but I had a friend once who had a business
selling soft-core fetish photos and videos. His thing was kinda weird,
but not all that shocking (lol!). He was a just super nice guy with a
rather odd interest, who'd never take advantage of anyone.

He had a limited budget too, and his best approach was the personal
one. We have a large college campus in our town, so he'd go a few
times a month to campus and just have a seat and watch the girls, er
world go by. If he saw someone who looked likely, he'd say hi, give
her a card, and invite her to call him if she was interested in making
some extra money for modeling. He'd do the same thing when he went out
to eat, which was quite frequently as he lived alone and didn't cook.
Just would hand a card to the waitress, or the girl at the next table,
etc. Always had his eye out, and a supply of business cards in his
wallet.

When the girls would call, and you'd be surprised how many of them
did, he'd explain the job, and invite them to an interview, telling
them they were welcome to bring a friend, or their mother or their
boyfriend along. Half the time *his* mother was there too! Of course,
he always had a ready supply of contracts on hand, and was always very
careful to document their ages, etc.

Seems surprising, but he always had way more models than he needed,
and many of them became good friends. He did use classified ads and
such also, but as I recall, his best models were the ones he found
with this personal approach. 'Course it takes an outgoing personality
and a certain sort of engaging friendliness my pal just naturally had.
Might not be your style, but I'm just mentioning it in case you hadn't
thought of that approach.

Cheers,
Byrd-ga

Hi grthumongous-ga,

Don't know whether it matters or not, but though I'm quite old enough
to remember the hot pants and halter tops era, ;-) my friend actually
started his business much more recently in the 90s. So though paranoia
is rather higher now than then, he still was not operating in those
lovely bygone days of unsuspecting naivete!

Best,
Byrd-ga