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Subject:
starting a charity
Category: Business and Money Asked by: timw1-ga List Price: $50.00 |
Posted:
20 Jun 2005 19:49 PDT
Expires: 20 Jul 2005 19:49 PDT Question ID: 535311 |
I am considering starting a charity for abused children but need some questions answered first. If my primary method of raising funds for the children is by accepting donations from the public, could my workers and I simply collect these donations at public venues, or would some sort of license or pre-approval be needed to collect at such places? For example, I think we've all seen volunteers accepting donations from motorists at red lights, etc. Would I need some sort of license (other than a general nonprofit business license) to do that? What about accepting donations at places that get a lot of foot traffic, such as downtown areas? Again, I'm speaking of public places -- I know that advanced permission would definitely be required for these sorts of activities if they were to occur on private property, such as in storefronts. Secondly, does the answer to the above question depend on location? If so, what is the answer for the following 3 locations: New York City; Newark, NJ; and Pittsburgh, PA. Also, before getting started with this I need to know how feasible this all is. What would be a general ballpark figure of how much donation money a single worker could be expected to collect in an hour's time in such public places? I realize that such a figure would be very tentative, but if it has any backing at all I would consider this question well answered. And finally, an extra credit question that will get you an additional $10. What government grant money, if any, might be available to assist in my charity's purpose? If you cannot answer this question, but can answer the rest, please reply to this post anyway. You will get full credit, and a great grade, for a good reply even if the extra credit question is not answered. |
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Re: starting a charity
From: embodiedmind-ga on 20 Jun 2005 22:17 PDT |
What you are talking about is canvassing, the soliciting of financial support for a non-profit entity, usually political but the term applies to most non-profit work. I have done a great deal of canvassing of the type you are describing, as well as door-to-door. Let me first summarize the laws that protect this First Amendment Right you enjoy, and then I will give you the skinny on canvassing. Since raising awareness and funds for non-profit entities that have no financial profit for any individual is protected by the First Amendment, you will find that although specific policies vary from municipalites, the essence remains the same. At most you will have to call the police department and inform them that you have a registered non-profit (which you should, if you plan on doing any fund-raising period), and that you and others will be canvassing at whatever times and locations. Be prepeared to share with them photo identification and the articles of incorporation of the non-profit. You will probably not need to consult shop-owners you are near to while publicly canvassing, it's best to be mindful of being a distraction and doing your best to keep clear of shops, try a spot in a park for instance. As long as you are respectful of pedestrians, you will find canvassing to be hassle-free. But it's really that simple. DO NOT pay any fees that a police deprtment of municipal clerk ask you for, there is no cost for canvassing, again due to your Constitutional rights. The organization I canvassed for operates across the country, including the cities you mentioned. The great thing about canvassing is that the system pays for itself. An average street canvasser should expect to clear $150 a day (8 hours), minus his or her pay of course. In order to ensure you are clearing net gains for your organization by getting skilled canvassers, there is usually a quota involved. If the canvasser can raise above a quote, say 400 a week, than they are entitiled to that 400 plus 30% of any funds they raised over that. This incentive structure ensures they are committed to being as succesful as possible, and I have seen people regularly bring in $1000 a week. I mentioned the difference between street canvassing and door-to-door. Street is higher volume, but lower pressure for people to commit, and you may deal with the occasional heckler. You need to maintain high energy, a bright smile and walk briefly along with people to talk to them to get them interested. I prefer door-to-door canvassing, because you can have more intimate conversations with people in a comfortable setting, and I tend to reap larger rewards from these efforts. Beware, some neighborhoods have their own policies on canvassing, and you may need to scope the neighborhood to endure you won't have any problems. Unfortunately, race is still a problem in this country, and I several non-white canvassers have had the police called on them spuriously. So in a sense, canvassing is very entrepenurial and scalable, so it's accessible to well-intentioned citizens like yourself looking to make a difference. On the other hand, canvassing can be quite intensive and exhausting, and you will expect to go through a steady stream of applicants, and be prepared to let those go who simply cannot pay their own way. I would advise you to explore other non-profits currently doing work in this arena, such as the succesful canvassing organization "Save the Children", www.savethechildren to see if perhaps an existing organization would be better suited for your talents and dedication. Frequently organizations such as these and Grassroots Campaigns www.grassrootscampaigns.com are looking for people to work in their canvassing operations. As far as public funding goes, it will take dedicated grant writing to get funds, and expect that at earliest you get full access to them in a year from when you put out the applications. Here is a list of children-related grant giving from private philanthropies http://www.lib.msu.edu/harris23/grants/2child.htm For public funding, your best bet is the Department of Health and Human Services list of grants available at http://www.acf.dhhs.gov/grants/index.html For honing your grant writing, consider taking a course from the respected Foundation Center fdncenter.org An example of how your rights are being protected, from Pittsburgh: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/search/s_152457.html For the municipal codes, see Section 8:7.21 (canvassing has a different meaning here) for Newark http://68.15.49.6/newark_nj/lpext.dll?f=templates&fn=main-hit-h.htm&2.0 For Pittsburgh's municipal code, see section 601.05 http://library8.municode.com/gateway.dll/PA/pennsylvania/227?f=templates&fn=default.htm&npusername=13525&nppassword=MCC&npac_credentialspresent=true&vid=default For New York City's consult one of the resources listed under General, http://www.ll.georgetown.edu/states/newyork.cfm That should be it, good luck and thanks for thinking about the kids! |
Subject:
Re: starting a charity
From: timw1-ga on 21 Jun 2005 13:48 PDT |
Embodiedmind, thanks for your most excellent reply. You have given me a lot of information, and great links to places where I can find out more. I don't know if Google is looking for additional researchers, but if they are I think you would be more than qualified! I do have a couple of questions for you though. First, you said: "In order to ensure you are clearing net gains for your organization by getting skilled canvassers, there is usually a quota involved. If the canvasser can raise above a quote, say 400 a week, than they are entitiled to that 400 plus 30% of any funds they raised over that." I am certainly not against paying a good wage for this work, and would actually prefer it in order to get the people best able to collect the most money for the cause. Of course, for that to work there needs to be enough money collected over and above their pay to make sure a large portion of the money will still go for the charitable purpose. Just to be clear, are you saying that a good setup might be for workers to keep the first $400 they collect each week, in addition to the 30% above $400? If that's the case, will enough be left over for the cause? Using your expectation of $150 per 8-hour workday, that would mean that a typical worker might collect $750 per week of which they keep $505. That means about 33% of the money collected would actually go towards the cause -- and that's not even taking into consideration other costs the organization would have. This seems low to me, when compared to the 90% efficiency that savethechildren apparently has: https://www.savethechildren.org/sponsorship/campaign.asp (see the pie chart on the right-hand side.) If I am reading into things correctly, this would not represent just falling short of what may be desired -- it might mean that conducting the business would actually be impossible, at least in some municipalities. For example, I was looking at information you provided about the city of Newark. Take a look at 8:7-26 (paragraph 6): http://68.15.49.6/newark_nj/lpext.dll?f=templates&fn=main-hit-h.htm&2.0 This states that a permit to solicit funds will not be granted if: "Aggregate remuneration of all persons employed to conduct or participate in conducting the solicitation for hire which is determined as a percentage of the amount of funds sought to be raised is excessive; provided that such aggregate remuneration shall prima facie be deemed excessive if in excess of ten (10%) percent of the amount of funds sought to be raised[...]" So, if I'm reading this correctly my organization could not canvass in Newark unless workers are paid 10% or less of the total amount collected. Applying 66% of the funds collected towards worker pay wouldn't even be close to what they're asking. What's your take on this? Also, I find it interesting that you think I should refuse to pay any fees for the right to canvass. From the Pittsburgh link you gave me, it seems they require a $50 fee to obtain a permit for canvassing: http://library8.municode.com/gateway.dll/PA/pennsylvania/227?f=templates&fn=default.htm&npusername=13525&nppassword=MCC&npac_credentialspresent=true&vid=default (601.05f). I doubt they would give me a permit if I refused to pay...isn't that asking for trouble? And finally, still on that Pittsburgh page, section 601.05e. I believe this section is saying that I can only canvass once per year(!). More than anything else, ordinances such as that would be a backbreaker for what I was hoping to do. Do you read it the same way? Thanks again for your opinions -- it's really helpful for me to hear them from someone involved in this business! |
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