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Subject: -Website address-
Category: Business and Money
Asked by: shoaib-ga
List Price: $160.00
Posted: 22 Jun 2005 04:17 PDT
Expires: 22 Jul 2005 04:17 PDT
Question ID: 535789
I need "website address" of any leading and specialized 
"international loan brokerage organization" providing  international 
loan arrangements to those   applicants   which  are  unable to  meet
the requirements of  traditional lending for  real  estate loans 
worldwide  for  ?commercial investment?   and  its  ?minimum? 
international  loan amount   should  be  US$  500,000   or US$  1 
million  or less  for above mentioned purpose   and it should  be paid
entirely from its funding sources for arranging international real
estate loans and it should not charge any
or upfront fees from  borrowers for arranging international real
estate loans.

Clarification of Question by shoaib-ga on 24 Jun 2005 09:44 PDT
I need "website address" of any leading and specialized  "full  service 
 international  loan  broker" arranging   international  real estate  
loans  for :

HARD TO FUND PROJECTS

for   real  estate loans  worldwide  for  ?commercial investment?  
and  its  ?minimum? international  loan amount   should  be  US$ 
500,000   or US$  1
million  or less  for above mentioned purpose   and it should  be paid
entirely from its funding sources for arranging international real
estate loans and it should not charge any  or upfront fees from 
borrowers for arranging international real estate loans so that I
shall be able to 'apply' to it for above mentioned loan.

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 25 Jun 2005 12:51 PDT
Hello again,

Since you're trying so hard on this, let me break out your question a
bit, and explain where things are not very clear:



>>I need "website address" of any leading and specialized  "full  service 
 international  loan  broker" arranging   international  real estate  
loans  for HARD TO FUND PROJECTS<<

Understood.



>>for   real  estate loans  worldwide  for  ?commercial investment?<<

Also understood.

 
>>and  its  ?minimum? international  loan amount   should  be  US$ 
500,000   or US$  1 million  or less  for above mentioned purpose<<


Not understood!  "minimum" means the least amount, so how can the
loans be $500K or $1 million "or less"?   This doesn't make sense to
me.



>>and it should  be paid entirely from its funding sources for
arranging international real estate loans<<

Not understood.  I don't even have a hint what this might mean.



>>and it should not charge any  or upfront fees from borrowers for
arranging international real estate loans so that I shall be able to
'apply' to it for above mentioned loan<<


Understood.



Please try reposting your question to clarify the above points.  You
might also want to consider using separate sentences or paragraphs for
each major point, rather than posting the entire question as one
l-o-o-o-o-n-g question.


Hope that helps.


paf

Clarification of Question by shoaib-ga on 01 Jul 2005 14:37 PDT
Pafalafa researcher please note that I have clarified  those 
statements  below  for its answer as you had inquired above :

 >>and  its  ?minimum? international  loan amount   should  be  US$ 
500,000   or US$  1 million  or less  for above mentioned purpose<<


Not understood!  "minimum" means the least amount, so how can the
loans be $500K or $1 million "or less"?   This doesn't make sense to
me.

Pafalafa researcher please note that my above mentioned statement
means that the international loan broker should provide 'loan
brokerage service' for the loan amount which  should be the 
"starting"  from the US Dollars amount of US $500K or US $1 million.


>>and it should  be paid entirely from its funding sources for
arranging international real estate loans<<

Not understood.  I don't even have a hint what this might mean.

My above mentioned statement means  that the  "funding sources"  of 
that international loan broker  should  "pay"  to that  international
loan broker  for arranging international real estate loans and 
therefore  that  international loan broker  should not charge any  or
upfront fees from borrowers for arranging international real estate
loans so that I shall be able to  'apply' to it for above mentioned
loan.

Clarification of Question by shoaib-ga on 05 Jul 2005 18:45 PDT
I need "website address" of any leading and specialized  "full  service 
 international  loan  broker" arranging   international  real estate  
loans  for :

HARD TO FUND PROJECTS

for   real  estate loans  worldwide  for  ?commercial investment and
that the international loan broker should provide 'loan
brokerage service' for the loan amount which  should be "starting" 
from the US Dollars amount of US $500K or US $1 million and  the 
"funding sources"  of
that international loan broker  should  "pay"  to that  international
loan broker  for arranging international real estate loans and 
therefore  that  international loan broker  should not charge any  or
upfront fees from borrowers for arranging international real estate
loans so that I shall be able to  'apply' to that international loan
broker  for above mentioned loan.

Clarification of Question by shoaib-ga on 07 Jul 2005 16:16 PDT
Myoarin-ga commenter please note that your below  mentioned both
comments are 'wrong'. Myoarin-ga commenter please go to the following
website address of Global Funding intermediary  organization of :

http://www.global-funding.com/internationalfinanceloansfaq.htm

Myoarin-ga commenter please note that in the above mentioned webpage
address it is written that this loan brokerage organization which
provides worldwide loan brokerage services for corporate loans  does
not charges any or upfront fees from borrowers for arranging
international loans. Myoarin-ga commenter I hope I have clarified or
solved your below mentioned comments. Regards from Shoaib.

Clarification of Question by shoaib-ga on 09 Jul 2005 16:17 PDT
Myoarin-ga commenter please note that I am member of "Highlander club
of United States of America country" and my membership number is
2029155-1. I want to mention that highlander club like many other
clubs performs its business through its members.  Myoarin-ga commenter
please note that Highlander club has advised me to purchase
residential property in certain Latin American and European countries
for commercial investment and Highlander club had prepared consultancy
reports for above mentioned investment purpose  by hiring top
international consultancy organizations and Highlander club  has also
provided to me that  consultancy reports  for above mentioned
investment purpose so therefore I have been searching for
international  funding sources  for above mentioned  commercial 
investment purpose  and therefore there is no need to perform due
diligence for above mentioned investment purpose because Highlander
club had provided to me due diligence report for above mentioned
purpose of investment. Regards from Shoaib.
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Comments  
Subject: Re: -Website address-
From: myoarin-ga on 02 Jul 2005 07:09 PDT
 
HI Shoaib-ga again,
I just posted a comment to your later question.
Pafalafa-ga has taken the trouble to ask for clarifcation of your question.
You are asking about a loan between $ 500,000 and $1,000,000.  That
is, in normal usage, a loan of minimum $ 500,000.
Your last paragraph explains that you do not want any up front fees,
that is, that you do not have to pay the broker any cash OR that the
loan amount available to finance the project will not be reduced by an
amount to provide such a fee.  This  could be concealed by setting an
interest rate on the loan that allow paying the fee, but then you
would still be paying it over the course of the loan repayment,  the
lender advancing the fee, but this is absolutely unlikely, especially
as you are seeking a loan for 100% financing of the project, so that
the lender would actually be advancing more than 100% of the value of
the project.

No one will do that.  As you have discovered, there are many websites
that suggest that this is possible, but that just makes them extremely
suspicious to anyone experienced in finance.

Myoarin
Subject: Re: -Website address-
From: myoarin-ga on 06 Jul 2005 04:02 PDT
 
Dear Shoaib,
I think that it is clear what you want  - and has been in your
previous questions on the subject.
The problem remains:  you are asking for something that the financial
market does not provide.
Let me try to explain one last time:
Loan brokers are in business, earn their money  - hence requiring a
fee -  by finding a lender for the borrower, who is you.  The broker
is providing you with a service, you want the loan.  The lender can
invest his money in many different ways.  Your loan would be just one
option for him; he doesn't need to pay for the opportunity to lend you
money and take a risk.  That is why he earns interest, because he is
taking a risk.  And he wants to limit this by having security that is
greater in value than the amount he lends, hence he will not lend you
100% of price of the project.  If he thought the project was good,
that you would earn enough to pay him interest and still make a profit
yourself,
he would put his money in the project directly in the hope of earning
even more  - the interest and the additional profit.

What you want just cannot be had, I am sorry to say.  If a researcher
could find  a satisfactory answer for you, I feel certain that one
would have tried.

Regards,  Myoarin
Subject: Re: -Website address-
From: myoarin-ga on 09 Jul 2005 15:07 PDT
 
Shoaib,
Indeed, you may be right; I hope so for you.  Just use this page to
make your application:

http://www.global-funding.com/internationalfinanceloanssubmission.htm

Although Global Funding's site seems to be directed to
"intermediaries" (brokers, agents), apparently they accept submissions
directly from borrowers.

Since your question is about:
"specialized "international loan brokerage organization" providing 
international loan arrangements to those   applicants   which  are 
unable to  meet the requirements of  traditional lending for  real 
estate loans,"
I am not sure if they will consider a loan, however, also since they
point out that they they are not interested in venture capital/seed
money financing, which it seems is what you are asking about.  (see
last FAQ  Q&A copied from the link you gave.)
Here is a definition of "seed money":
"Seed Money
The first round of capital for a start-up business. Seed money usually
takes the structure of a loan or an investment in preferred stock or
convertible bonds, although sometimes it is common stock. Seed money
provides startup companies with the capital required for their initial
development and growth. Angel investors and early-stage venture
capital funds often provide seed money."

The other Q&As and the numbered explanations to brokers (also copied
from the site) make it clear that Global Funding assunes that brokers
will be charging a arrangement fee, either deducted from the loan
amount or paid directly by the borrower, but it comes to the same
thing, the borrower is paying this at the initiation of the loan.
Yes, this may not be an "up front fee" as you use the term, something
paid just to have the broker/agent handle the application, regardless
of his success in arranging the loan.
I think we were misunderstanding each other on this matter.
As you can see below, you would also have to pay for "due diligence".
This may be one way Global Funding earns money.  Due Diligence is an
in depth review of a borrower's (or takeover candidate's) accounting,
assets, business practice.  This is done by independent accountants,
which costs a considerable amount, of course.  Since the loan decision
is based on this, this expense occurs even if the loan is then
refused.  Since the Q&A says that this must be discussed with the
potential borrower, it looks like he would have to pay.

In light of these points, I still feel that there would be expenses at
the start of the loan, and as I understood from this and your other
questions, this was what you wanted to avoid.
However, if you feel that Global Funding provides the service you have
been seeking, that is much more important than whether I am right or
wrong.

Okay?  Good luck, Myoarin   (see below for copies from the site)

Frequently Asked Questions...
 
Q. 	Are you a lender or a broker?
A. 	We are appointed loan originators and sometimes act as
co-financiers. We do not 'outsource' cases.
Q. 	What are your fees and or charges?
A. 	As an appointed loan originator and a co-financier, we do not
charge success points at closing. However, brokers please note: Should
you attempt to take advantage of a client with excess/unreasonable
charges on your side we will not process you requests.
Q.  	What about necessary due diligence costs?
A. 	Due diligence is a necessary cost not a fee. This should be
discussed, in detail, and/or sent, with every potential borrower.
Request or Refer to the document entitled 'Why Due Diligence'.
Q.  	What type of projects/ventures will you consider?
A. 	We will consider any viable project/venture. We are not interested
in 'Venture Capital/Seed Money' type projects.

Welcome Brokers/Agents...

We value and protect our relationship with all independent
intermediaries. Having been an intermediary for many years, we
recognize this valuable role.

   1. Global has the direct capabilities as an appointed loan
originator and/or co-lender to directly structure, approve and/or
originate corporate structured financed investment loans from us$1
million to us$200 million. Loans in excess of us$200 million are
syndicated by our lending associates.
   2. Most realistic projects can be funded.
   3. We have our procedures and a specific way of doing business. We
always start the same with the completion of a project submission form
or submission or a brief executive summary. However, the project
submission form is a brief document and enables us to make
instantaneous decisions regarding our possible interest or disinterest
concerning a project and/or loan. Therefore, you may call us or send
un-requested information and our comment(s) will always be the same.
Please send us a project submission form or a brief executive summary.
   4. As appointed loan originators and/or possible co-lenders we
honor all valid intermediary contracts at loan closing. You will
receive your 'arrangement fee' directly from loan proceeds at closing
or, if desired, you can choose to get paid directly from the client
upon their receipt of loan proceeds. Your choice makes no difference
to us.
   5. Once we have initial paperwork completed, with you, such as your
legal protection documents and etc... And you have your client
contracts, in place, for your 'arrangement fee' we will deal with the
client directly. Neither our direct lending associates or global give
loan proposals to intermediaries for negotiation on our behalf.
   6. Your clients are important to you and to us but make no mistake,
we will not argue with you regarding your clients. We have our
procedures and we do not negotiate exceptions for unrealistic clients
and/or intermediaries. We consider each client and broker request on
an individual basis.
   7. What you charge a client for your 'arrangement fee' makes no
difference to us. However, if you are unrealistic and attempting to
'fleece the client' we will notify you, in advance, in writing, that
we will not honor your client contract at closing and you must collect
directly from the client. Please remember, it is up to you to secure
your success fee contract with the client.
Subject: Re: -Website address-
From: myoarin-ga on 10 Jul 2005 06:04 PDT
 
Hi shoaib,
I don't know what the "Highlanders" have to do with it all, but Punta
del Este sure looks like a wonderful place:

http://www.visit-uruguay.com/sale_prop.htm

Myoarin
Subject: Funding sources
From: yorker-ga on 01 Oct 2005 08:43 PDT
 
Shoaib,

As a very experienced angel investor, I can tell you with almost 100%
assurance that all of the sites and companies you mentioned are NOT
going to help you make money. They are simply designed to take YOUR
money! While I appreciate your desire to work hard and earn money, the
truth is that there is just no easy, cheap or free way to do it...no
matter what anyone says. You CANNOT rely on the "Highlander Club"
(which is just a newsletter of suggestions for people looking to make
money), or the "Global Funding" web site (which looks like a cheap
operation that will simply post a message saying that you want a
loan), or anyone else. I have no idea of where you are located or what
your situation is, but you have to be very, very careful. There are
thousands of unscrupulous people and companies who exist only to take
advantage of earnest, inexperienced people like you. If you take only
two pieces of advice, they would be: (1) DO NOT SEND ANY MONEY AT ALL
TO ANYONE FOR ANY PURPOSE while you are trying to raise funds, and (2)
DO NOT BELIEVE 99.999% OF ANYTHING YOU READ ON ANY WEBSITE THAT
PROMISES TO HELP YOU GET RICH.

It is sad, but it is also very true, that there is just NO WAY to "get rich quick".

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