Dear Rafigl,
It is not clear from your question if you've been already granted
Hungarian citizenship, or if you're still waiting for approval.
If the former is correct, and you are a Hungarian citizen, you can
apply for you children. The fact that your wife is not Hungarian,
should not make a difference for children born after 1957. Your wife's
Polish ancestry should also not make a difference: since her
nationality wouldn't matter for their entitlement of a Hungarian
citizenship.
You should, however, persent the following documents for each child:
- Their birth certificates (since they were born in Israel, you need a
typewritten certified Hungarian translation).
- A document proving marital status, if they are married;
- Your birth certificate and all other documents "proving" that you
are Hungarian: your passport, for example;
- Your marriage certificate, again - translated to Hungarian and certified.
In any case, and in case that there are some amendments in the
regulations, I recommend that you'll contact the Hungarian Consulate
in Tel Aviv:
18 Rehov Pinkas, Tel-Aviv 62661, Tel.: +972-3-5466860, Fax: +972-3-5468968
Further Reading:
Act LV of 1993 on Hungarian Citizenship
<http://www.huembwas.org/Consular/HunCit.htm>
Obtaining Hungarian Citizenship/Visa
<http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=520078>
Hungarian Citizenship and Passports
<http://hungarianconsulate.co.nz/pport_en.html>
I hope this answers your question. Please contact me if you need any
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Request for Answer Clarification by
rafigl-ga
on
08 Jul 2005 21:51 PDT
I do not have a hungarien pasport yet. I just submited all the
documents needed and according to hungarien law I desrve to get it as
my father and my mother ,both were born in Hongary before
1957(1921,1925). I know the hungarien embasy and the difficulties
regarding the polish Perents of my wife were raised by the people in
the Embasy. the answer I have got is not sufficient as the researcher
did not get any data about the hungarien polish citizenship agreement
was valid when my daughters were born (1977,1981) and that was my
question.
I quote from my origin questions "Do you know if my kids cann apply
and can get a citizenship and what
kind of agreement between hungary and poland effacted my kids (was
valid when they wes borned 1977,1981"
So please give me a full answer to my question
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Clarification of Answer by
politicalguru-ga
on
09 Jul 2005 00:51 PDT
I have answered your question. I told you that once you are granted
your citizenship, your children can apply.
However, your children cannot apply until you get your citizenship
yourself. You will have to wait. It has nothing to do with your wife's
nationality, especially that you said that she is *not* a Polish
citizen, only of Polish ancestry.
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Request for Answer Clarification by
rafigl-ga
on
09 Jul 2005 22:30 PDT
All what you wrote is well known and I could find it in another
answers in Google search. I asked spacific question and did not get
any answer
"what kind of citizenship agreement between hungary and poland
effacted my kids and/or was
valid when they wes borned 1977,1981"
You said my wife's polish perensts are not affected the request and in
the Hungarien embassy in Tel Aviv they said it is efacted. please give
me an answer to the spacific question above or tell me that you do not
know
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Clarification of Answer by
politicalguru-ga
on
10 Jul 2005 01:37 PDT
I'll tell you once more: since your children are Israeli citizens, and
so is your wife, it is not relevant whether there were any agreements
between the two countries or not.
The agreements regarding citizenship that existed during that period,
stated that a Hungarian citizen, who moves to Poland (or several other
East Bloc countries, with which there was a similar agreement), must
relinquish their citizenship, as dual citizenship would not be
recognised. However, this is not relevant in your case, since your
children are neither:
(1) The children of a Polish citizen;
(2) Polish citizens themselves;
(3) Have ever lived in Poland.
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Request for Answer Clarification by
rafigl-ga
on
10 Jul 2005 05:46 PDT
Hi.Thank you. Now you get closer to my question. Do you have any
article/data or agrement description regarding that bi lateral treaty
. Althogh you may gave me a corect data I have told by the hungarien
embassy that I should bring an evidence from Poland that my wife is
not a polish citizen(of course I know she is not). Please try to
provide me some more information on this issue ,so I will be prepared
to discusse this issue with the hungarians
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Clarification of Answer by
politicalguru-ga
on
11 Jul 2005 00:59 PDT
Dear Rafi,
Here are soem details on the agreement:
" In a show of "Socialist" brotherhood, the Hungarian communist
government signed an agreement with Ceaucescu's Rumania in 1979
cancelling Hungarian citizenship for Transylvania's 2.5 million-strong
Hungarian community. Previous Hungarian governments did the same thing
with Hungarians living and working in [...] Poland in 1961[...].
(SOURCE: Dual Citizenship for Hungarians,
<http://www.americanhungarianfederation.org/news_dualcitizenship.htm>).
A more encompassing article in Hungarian on the treaty:
Mikor és hogyan veszítették el a külhoni magyarok az állampolgárságukat?
<http://index.hu/velemeny/olvir/allampolg113/>
A related issue:
Preferential treatment of national minorities by the kin-state: the
case of the Hungarian law of 19 June 2001 on Hungarians living in
neighbouring countries ("Magyars")
<http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/WorkingDocs/doc03/EDOC9744.htm>
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