Hello.
It sounds like you're descrbing "Orphans of the Sky" (1951) by Robert Heinlein.
From Loganberry.com:
"... There were many levels to the spaceship, one being agricultural
with crops, hydroponics and livestock. One day the boy discovers a
door and eventually goes outside and sees the stars and learns the
truth about where they were, who they were and where they were from...
... Everything described fits Orphans of the Sky by Robert A.
Heinlein. A very large, slowly spinning spaceship has been on a
voyage for many generations. It had been on it's correct trajectory,
when, years before the opening chapter, a mutiny occurred. At that
time, some of the mutineers were exposed to radiation so that their
offspring began to have strange mutations. This led to some of the
passengers later being branded as "Muties," meaning either mutant or
mutineer. Hugh Hoyland climbed above the farmland where he had always
lived to explore the upper reaches of his world."
http://www.logan.com/loganberry/solved-o.html
Available from Amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1588810070/
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search strategy:
"inside an asteroid" levels
I hope this is the book that you had in mind. If not, please request
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Request for Answer Clarification by
trebor48-ga
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28 Jun 2005 11:42 PDT
This might be it. I don't remember mutants but it was a long time
ago. The key is if the book specifically mentions "journey of the
four worlds". Do you know if this book has that in it ?
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Clarification of Answer by
juggler-ga
on
28 Jun 2005 13:17 PDT
Well, the parts about the boy climbing through a door to another
level, the agricultural level, multiple levels, the people on some of
the levels forgetting that they were on a ship, etc., would seem to be
so distinctive that it seems highly likely that "Orphans of the Sky"
is your book. Plus, the 1951 publication date is consistent with your
recollection.
Since you seem unconvinced, though, I will personally take a look at
the book and see if I can verify some of the other details that you
remember. My local public library has a copy, and I've requested it.
I'll report back in few days.
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Request for Answer Clarification by
trebor48-ga
on
28 Jun 2005 18:13 PDT
Okay, I appreciate that. I agree that the story line makes it look
like a slam-dunk, but the "journey of the four worlds" phrase is the
clincher. One thing I noted in following the references is that
although the story (part one) appeared in 1951, it seems that the
first US edition of the book was in 1964, which would be too late
(unless my library had a non US edition).
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Clarification of Answer by
juggler-ga
on
28 Jun 2005 18:48 PDT
Is it possible that you just read the first part (i.e., "Universe")?
That was published in 1951.
http://dogbert.abebooks.com/abe/BookDetailsPL?bi=451885170
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Clarification of Answer by
juggler-ga
on
28 Jun 2005 20:43 PDT
I'm sorry.
Upon further review, I believe that your book was a juvenile title,
THE STAR SEEKERS (1953) by Milton Lesser.
See these usenet messages which mention the four levels of the asteroid, etc:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.arts.sf.misc/msg/762274cca7604e4d?hl=en
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.fan.heinlein/msg/f9b468f7dd670d38?hl=en
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.arts.sf.written/msg/3e66e0c54554e629?hl=en
Used copies on Abebooks:
http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?an=lesser&y=0&tn=star+seekers&x=0
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Clarification of Answer by
juggler-ga
on
28 Jun 2005 21:58 PDT
Another usenet message that describes the entertainment level of the asteroid:
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/rec.arts.sf.written/msg/131e1bc1c4d2a89f?hl=en
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Clarification of Answer by
juggler-ga
on
28 Jun 2005 22:01 PDT
The empathy element is mentioned in this blog:
"...one of them (The Star Seekers) was the first Sci-Fi I ever read,
the only book of its type in my elementary school's library. That
story was where I learned the word "empathy."
http://www.wunderland.com/WTS/Rash/white/17.htm
Case closed, no?
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Request for Answer Clarification by
trebor48-ga
on
29 Jun 2005 06:01 PDT
This sounds a lot more like the book. I think the rite of passage is
what was called the "journey of the four worlds". The various details
mentioned in the user groups ring true in the cobwebs of my memory.
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Clarification of Answer by
juggler-ga
on
29 Jun 2005 06:23 PDT
Yes, "The Star Seekers" positively has to be the book. I was a bit
surprised that there were two books so similar, but this book's
details about the hollowed-out asteroid, the four levels (including
the entertainment level and the "Far Labry" scientific level), plus
the "empathy" element absolutely clinch this.
Anyway, I consider this question answered, and I hope that you enjoy
the book again when you obtain a copy!
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Request for Answer Clarification by
trebor48-ga
on
29 Jun 2005 10:41 PDT
I agree Star Seekers has to be the book. It was certainly strange how
close the other book by Heinlein was - could Star Seekers have been
inspired by the Universe piece? Anyway, thanks - I am ordering Star
Seekers, and I may get the Heinlein book too!
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Clarification of Answer by
juggler-ga
on
29 Jun 2005 11:01 PDT
You're welcome.
Yes, Heinlein's "Universe" was first published in 1941 in "Astounding
Science Fiction" magazine. Given the similarity between the two
stories, I'd be rather surprised if the author of "The Star Seekers"
hadn't previously read "Universe."
Regards,
juggler
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Request for Answer Clarification by
trebor48-ga
on
02 Jul 2005 10:37 PDT
I received the book today and The Star Seekers is it! I can't believe
that I now hold in my hand a book I have been looking for, off and on,
for thirty years! With your excellent help I had it within five days
of posting the question. It turns out also that it wasn't the
"Journey of the Four Worlds" but rather the "Journey of the Four
Circles". So much for the cobwebs of the mind, but at least I was
close. Thanks again, I'm looking forward to reading this old favorite
of mine. Will post answer rating later.
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Clarification of Answer by
juggler-ga
on
02 Jul 2005 18:58 PDT
Wonderful! I have to admit that both "The Star Seekers" and "Orphans
of the Sky" are now on my "to read" list. I enjoy that genre and am
anxious to read these books which have apparently intrigued so many
readers.
Happy a nice 4th of July weekend!
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Clarification of Answer by
juggler-ga
on
02 Jul 2005 18:58 PDT
And thanks for the tip!
-juggler
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