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MUST WE GIVE OUR NAMES TO THE USPS?
Category: Relationships and Society > Government Asked by: rambler-ga List Price: $10.00 |
Posted:
29 Jun 2005 06:19 PDT
Expires: 29 Jul 2005 06:19 PDT Question ID: 538276 |
Does the law require that citizens must give their names to the U.S. Postal Service in order to receive mail? To put it another way, does the postman have the right to return a letter to the sender if the letter has my address but not my correct name? The reason I ask is this: I want to discover which businesses sell my name and address. When a website asks for my name and address, I will give my proper address and a fake (but tell-tale) name. If I subsequently receive junk mail addressed to "R ABC", then I have proof that the ABC company sold my name and address. I thought that was a clever strategy until it backfired on me. I wanted to complain to a well-known producer of edible nuts that their cashews looked bad, but their website wouldn't let me enter without giving my name and address. So, I gave my correct address but I used the company's name as my surname. After I sent my e-mail, they replied with an apology and said that they were sending me a refund. I didn't have to worry about how I would cash a check made out to someone other than myself: the postman refused to deliver the check to me. I think I'll change my strategy. In future, I will use my proper surname, but use the company's name as my FIRST name. (The postman agreed that that strategy should work.) In any case, I still want to know if the Post Office has the authority to refuse to deliver a letter if the name on the letter is not recognized by the postman. |
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Re: MUST WE GIVE OUR NAMES TO THE USPS?
Answered By: hummer-ga on 29 Jun 2005 07:41 PDT Rated: |
Hi rambler, Here are the USPS standards as layed out in their manual. Mailing Standards of the United States Postal Service Domestic Mail Manual 600 Basic Standards for All Mailing Services http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/dmm300_landing.htm 602. ADDRESS 1.3 Address Elements a. Intended recipient's name or other identification. 1.4.2 Complete Address Elements a. Addressee name or other identifier and/or firm name where applicable. http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/602.htm 607. COMPLIANCE 1.0 Mailer Compliance With Mailing Standards "A mailer must comply with all applicable postal standards. Despite any statement in this document or by any USPS employee, the burden rests with the mailer to comply with the laws and standards governing domestic mail." http://pe.usps.com/text/dmm300/607.htm So the answer to your question is "yes", the address must comply with the standards by including a suitable identifier and "...the Post Office has the authority to refuse to deliver a letter if the name on the letter is not recognized by the postman." I hope this helps. If you have any questions, please post a clarification request *before* closing/rating my answer and I'll be happy to reply. Thank you, hummer Google Search Terms Used: USPS manual | |
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Re: MUST WE GIVE OUR NAMES TO THE USPS?
From: journalist-ga on 29 Jun 2005 07:54 PDT |
Regarding your question part "In any case, I still want to know if the Post Office has the authority to refuse to deliver a letter if the name on the letter is not recognized by the postman." The answer is yes. My legal name and my DBA name are different, and when I moved to my current location, I gave the postman a list of names to accept (my father also has mail sent here with his name and my address) - the postman thanked me and has been using my list. So far, no delayed or undelivered mail. Best regards, journalist-ga |
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Re: MUST WE GIVE OUR NAMES TO THE USPS?
From: rambler-ga on 29 Jun 2005 08:40 PDT |
To journalist-ga: What does "DBA" mean? |
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Re: MUST WE GIVE OUR NAMES TO THE USPS?
From: toufaroo-ga on 29 Jun 2005 08:49 PDT |
Usually, it's the mailman who rejects or allows the mail to go through, not necessarily the automatic scanning/processing machines. So, to fix this, all you have to do is to enter... Name: Your Fake Name Address 1: c/o Your Real Name Address 2: Your Address City: etc... Although, your system with the fake first name and the real surname will probably work as well. |
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Re: MUST WE GIVE OUR NAMES TO THE USPS?
From: bozo99-ga on 29 Jun 2005 09:02 PDT |
Read the book "Database Nation". A court found a man did not own a spelling variation on his name in relation to tracking origin of junk mail. He could have managed with a variation (obviously minor) on his address. |
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Re: MUST WE GIVE OUR NAMES TO THE USPS?
From: crythias-ga on 29 Jun 2005 13:35 PDT |
Rambler-ga: DBA: "Doing Business As" |
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Re: MUST WE GIVE OUR NAMES TO THE USPS?
From: cribcage-ga on 30 Jun 2005 16:26 PDT |
Hummer's suggestion of using the optional second line is a common solution that you may try. When businesses advertise across different media, they often use this method to determine which advertising works best. You may hear a radio ad instructing you to address correspondence to "Department A," or you may read a magazine classified giving the same company's address as "Department B." Obviously, if the company receives a hundred replies to "Department A" and none to "Department B," they know which advertising investment they should renew. |
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Re: MUST WE GIVE OUR NAMES TO THE USPS?
From: whatstheinternet-ga on 08 Aug 2005 23:46 PDT |
rambler-ga, first class amil is not rquired to have a from: addrres or zip code (oddly enough). The complete address for the to: is required. the other person is correct that this cannot be blank. You legal name !!!!IS NOT REQUIRED!!! for delivery. examples are "DBA ...", Postal customer, Resident, Responsible driver...I'm going to be stupid but my point will be made. How does your carrier know if you are a responsible driver??? (geico commonly addresses their mailings this way) So your carrier should from his reasoning return mail addresed to "current resident", Frequent flier,etc. Hummer ga gave excellent answres but looked to deep, or over analyzed. You can use any name you wish (gramps, mooma, little fart, chubby i would bet he wouldn't return thoses mail pieces. Your carrier DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY to return that mail and actually is in violation of federal law under title 18 of the united states code of federal regulations. Congress passed a law umpteen years ago diresting the Post Office to deliver all mail with correct postage and a deliverable address as addressed to that adress. Reason behind this, if the mailer has paid correct postage it is expected to be delivered or attemted to that address, or the mail is entitled for the services for which it paid. DO NOT CONFUSE THIS WITH A FICTITIOUS NAME. this is illegal and violates the postal lottery act. This law protects the seller, for example, from buyers who request merchandise ander a fictitous name. Of course the dont pay the bill because they "dont know who Buck Wheat is and never saw the merchandise in question" the scam is that you lawfully can't bill and address or a fictitious person, sneaky little bastards. You are not using a secondary name to knowling cause an debteness for services provided. Federal law states that mail closed to postal inspection cannto be knowingly delayed, detained, or withheld from delivery except for a few reasons (i.e. a federal warrent issued by a state or higher appointed federal judge, as directed from a postal inspector during an investigation. etc.) You can see that it takes a lot of power from high up to not deliver that first class letter. Thats why there so many drugs delivered through the mail. put first class postage on it and congress and the us constitution will protect your rights to privacy, and noone can open that peice of mail without a federal warrant and cant unduly delay that mail at the same time. From this info, common sense should tell you that the mail man cannot with hold that 1st class mail from delivey unless the contents were unmailable but there is know way to legaly and lawfully no whats inside. Therefore the carrier would have to make some judgment call on if who its addressed to actually exist but that would be biased and congress oversees the post office and mandates that we provide uniform , fair, and unbiased mail delivery to everyone without exception. I think i have said wwwaaaayyyy to much. Tell your carrier to do their job and deliver the mail. if he continues to kill your mail call the postal inspectores and the OIC. |
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Re: MUST WE GIVE OUR NAMES TO THE USPS?
From: myoarin-ga on 09 Aug 2005 08:16 PDT |
Hummer-ga and Journalist-ga, I don't know if you get automatic notice of comments after posting an answer. Here is one dd. 8. aug. that appears to refute your answer and comment, resp. Myoarin |
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