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The books of the Old Testament
Category: Reference, Education and News Asked by: jrt123-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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29 Jun 2005 08:46 PDT
Expires: 29 Jul 2005 08:46 PDT Question ID: 538327 |
I'm looking for a quick and simple answer to this question. "Why is the book of Job in the bible?" A friend posed the question to me and wants me to figure out the answer. I'm 90% sure it's not a riddle. I assume that a bible expert would know. | |
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Re: The books of the Old Testament
From: waukon-ga on 29 Jun 2005 11:49 PDT |
Is your question about the Old Testatment canon (i.e., the the actual books included in it, vs those that were excluded)? |
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Re: The books of the Old Testament
From: jrt123-ga on 29 Jun 2005 12:22 PDT |
Yes, I would be interested to know why Job was included vs. excluded but the question posed to me was just, why was it included in the bible? ie;what purpose or what point is it trying to teach? |
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Re: The books of the Old Testament
From: pugwashjw-ga on 29 Jun 2005 19:02 PDT |
The book of Job was written by Moses. It was originally written in Hebrew according to the style of poetry and language. The similarities to the Pentateuch point to Moses being the writer, and he may have learned about Job's trial and life when the Izraelites came near to UZ on the way to the poromised land in 1473 B.C.E. The discussion is between the four, Job, Eliphaz, bildad and Zophar. When the three did state true facts, the setting and application was wrong. Satan used this tactic when he took Jesus along and said " If you are the son of God, hurl yourself down, for it is written 'He will give his angels a charge concerning you, and they will carry ou on their hands, that you may at no time strike your foot against a stone". In other words, protect him. But Jesus said to Satan " Again it is written, you must not put Jehovah your God to the test" [Matthew 4; 5-7] The three stated that God punishes the wicked [true] but they presented God as having no mercy [ false] They claimed that God had no delight in men keeping integrity and no trust in servants of God. This denies the many scriptural examples of God's love for and confidence in his servants. God had so much trust in Job that he allowed Satan to hurt Job both physically and personally, by killing his first family, but did not allow Satan to kill Job. Job's integrity won him through and his health was restored and he gained a new family. It is a perfect example of the rewards to come for being faithful. |
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Re: The books of the Old Testament
From: waukon-ga on 30 Jun 2005 16:07 PDT |
pugwashjw's comments are as extreme as they unsupportable. The Hebrew is a little odd, and it's been suggested that we are actually reading a cognate dialect written with Hebrew letters. No where does it say it was written by Moses, and to say it was is decidely out from left field. The formal term is 'theodicy', God's justice, or in this case God's seeming injustice. If you carefully read the book, no completely satisfactory answer is arrived at, but the question is fully debated. The Jewish canon consists of the threefold divisions, going from greatest to least significance, of the Torah (law), the Prophets, and the Writings. Job is among the Writings, the literary works. The Jewish Scriptures have the order of the books arranged quite differently from that found in Christian Bibles. The Catholics use the Old Testament canon found in the Septuagint (the LXX), an ancient Jewish-composed Greek translation. The Greek Orthodox have always used the LXX in an untranslated state, as well as the Byzantine recension of the original Greek for the New Testament. Protestants use the canon of the Masoretic text (the MT), i.e., the Hebrew version. The LXX contains more books than the MT, some of which do not exist in Hebrew. The MT attained its present form by the time of the Jewish Council of Jamnia/Yavne shortly after AD 70 (this was basically the Sanhedrin in exile from the destroyed Jerusalem). |
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Re: The books of the Old Testament
From: pugwashjw-ga on 02 Jul 2005 02:56 PDT |
Quoting scripture can never be "Extreme". Job 1;1 states that Job feared God and because of that, turned aside from bad. This is exactly what Jehovah* God [ name/title Exodus 3;13-15 & 6;3] wants from all of us. It is our attitude to him that will determine our final outcome. Not our knowledge of canons or mazoretic texts. this is simply 'head knowledge' or data in a computer. no feeling. The Book of Job is included in the Bible as an example of the rewards of humbleness. 70 C.E. was the beginning of the end for the Sanhedrin. |
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Re: The books of the Old Testament
From: whosoever-ga on 10 Jul 2005 06:47 PDT |
This is (part of) a quote from the Job intro in the Message Bible : "Reading Job prayerfully and meditatively leads us to face the questions that arise when our lives don't turn out the way we expect them to." "Every time we let Job give voice to our own questions.....we are brought a step closer to the threshold of the voice and mystery of God. Every time we persist with Job in rejecting the quick-fix counsel of people who see and hear us but do not understand us, we deepen out availability and openess to the revelation that comes only out of the tempest......" Hope this answers your question. |
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Re: The books of the Old Testament
From: dayenu-ga on 24 Jul 2005 10:31 PDT |
try this discussion of the Jewish Christian and ISlamic view of JOb http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/j/jo/job_(biblical_figure)1.htm |
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