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Subject:
HELP! IS MY MOTHER DOOMED IN THIS SO CALLED SENIOR GROUP HOME?
Category: Health > Seniors Asked by: mojob-ga List Price: $3.00 |
Posted:
30 Jun 2005 22:25 PDT
Expires: 30 Jul 2005 22:25 PDT Question ID: 538997 |
My Mother is in a so called assited living home for all different types of patients. In my opinion, she & the others are not fed properly, nor are they cared for like I had hoped it would be like. The "group home" is in Glendale, Arizona. No LPN's nor RN's are ever on duty. Besides my 84 yr. old Mom, there are others who cannot eat greasy pizza and hot dogs for meals. A doctor visits once a month if they are lucky, and they charge almost $1000.00 per/mo. for room and board. The employess aren't even certified, who over sees these homes in our state of Arizona? Who can I contact without giving my name, as she says they will "take it out on her" If I was able, Mom would be with me, however I am not in any condition myself to care for her. They give her a hard time about the foods my brother and I take to her, as she cannot eat greasy pizza, nor chew it. These people are old, sick and scared, so they don't say anything at all. I have seen 3 die already, and Mom is about to give up all together. Please, any advice anyone can offer is better than none at all. Tell me, who can I contact? TIA |
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Re: HELP! IS MY MOTHER DOOMED IN THIS SO CALLED SENIOR GROUP HOME?
Answered By: crabcakes-ga on 01 Jul 2005 01:26 PDT |
Hi there Mojob, What a terrible situation you and your mother are in. Please call at least one or all the agencies I have listed. You will need to document every incident of abuse and neglect. Take pictures of any bruises or injuries your mother may sustain, and date each picture. Take the pictures discretely. For example if you see a patient being mistreated, pretend you are taking a picture of your mom, but get the other patient in the viewfinder. Pretend to take a picture of your mom while she eats the awful food. Say things like "Smile, Mom, I want to send Aunt Lucy a new picture of you!" Your mom does not need to be in on this. While visiting with your mother, jot down what you see, inconspicuously, while you chat with mom. Note the kinds of meals the patients are served. Check for cleanliness and the presence of a urine smell. Observe the staff and see if they wash their hands after each patient. Document each and every incident. If your mother makes a complaint to you, document it and ask the staff to resolve the problem. Remember the name of the employee and when out of sight, jot down her name and reaction, and if she or he resolved the problem. Certified homes are supposed to have a certain number of RNs, LPNs, and CNAs. You can ask when you call the Long Term Care Licensure office, found in the next paragraph. Please contact the Arizona's Office of Long-Term Care Licensure at 602-674-9705, and ask who you need to speak to to file a complaint. http://www.azdhs.gov/als/ltc/nhsurproc.pdf AARP addresses nursing home deficiencies and abuse on this site: http://www.aarp.org/families/housing_choices/nursing_homes/a2004-02-26-nursing-problems.html The Arizona Geriatrics Society may be useful: Arizona Geriatrics Society 13101 N. 103rd Avenue, Ste. 311 Sun City, AZ 85351 623-974-4212 This office may lead you in the right direction as well: Office for Civil Rights U.S. Department of Health & Human Services 50 United Nations Plaza - Room 322 San Francisco, CA 94102 (415) 437-8310 (415) 437-8311(TDD) (415) 437-8329 FAX http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/ Nursing Home abuse Glossary http://www.nursinghomeabuseresourcecenter.com/glossary/m.html#Medicare You may make an anonymous call here: Arizona: Tool-free 877-767-2385 http://www.elderabusecenter.org/default.cfm?p=statehotlines.cfm http://www.elderabusecenter.org/default.cfm?p=nursinghomeabuse.cfm If you wish to file against a doctor, you may download forms here: http://bomex.org/ This is a law firm that specializes in Elder abuse. Tey *MAY* give you some free advice by filling out this form http://www.elderly-abuse-nursing-home.com/pgs/contact.html You can use this site to compare nursing homes in Arizona. Simply check the boxes in the left hand column of nursing homes you are interested in. http://www.medicare.gov/NHCompare/Include/DataSection/Questions/HomeSelect.asp "A recent government study found that fewer than one in 10 homes employs the optimum number of nurses and aides. Few facilities are ever cited for understaffing, however, because minimum government standards are set far below the levels needed to help assure high quality care. A succession of federal reports also has highlighted neglect, abuse and enforcement problems." http://www.post-gazette.com/healthscience/20020922nursinghomes0922p1.asp Finally, Glendale has 3 nice libraries and you may call and ask a reference librarian to locate a local agency or department that handles nursing home abuse. This page lists the 3 libraries and their numbers in the right hand corner. http://www.ci.glendale.az.us/Library/ Please look after your mother (and other mothers and dads) and file neglect/abuse reports. Have the nursing home name, address and phone number ready when you call. Ask if you can remain anonymous as you fear retaliation, and if not, make it clear you do not want your name mentioned to the nursing home. They will ask if you have documentation, so this is very important. Start keeping a diary on your computer, with names, dates and complaints. You can go back and add what you have mentioned here and all you have observed. You may be asked to send your documentation and pictures, so make two copies. I hope this has helped you. I know you are anxious to resolve this problem immediately. Take care, and let us know if you were able to find some assistance. If any part of my answer is unclear, please request an Answer Clarification before you rate, and I will respond as soon as possible. Regards, Crabcakes |
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Re: HELP! IS MY MOTHER DOOMED IN THIS SO CALLED SENIOR GROUP HOME?
From: waukon-ga on 30 Jun 2005 23:53 PDT |
Good assisted care facilities are quite expensive. The cheaper ones are often the chamber of horrors you describe. I would invest in a good concealable miniature video system, a 'spy cam', and would secretly tape things, if only to document things if worse comes to worse. Learn as much as you can about the place, including the names of those in charge, and if you can, those who actually own the place (doubtless a layer of anonymous corporations leading to some impenetrable offshore corporation). Politicians can sometimes be helpful, Democratic ones particularly. Your situation is why so many Americans resort to hiring illegal aliens to work inside their homes. Less than $1,000 a month, with room and board, might get you someone decent from south of the border. There is no easy solution short of a major revolution in the way we fund health care. |
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Re: HELP! IS MY MOTHER DOOMED IN THIS SO CALLED SENIOR GROUP HOME?
From: waukon-ga on 01 Jul 2005 05:40 PDT |
Again, a wonderful answer, Crabcakes, and a merciful one too. |
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Re: HELP! IS MY MOTHER DOOMED IN THIS SO CALLED SENIOR GROUP HOME?
From: wordsmth-ga on 01 Jul 2005 13:26 PDT |
Yes, that's the state of our elder care system today. The only difference is that on the East Coast (Northern Virginia....Falls Church....where the sun rises) you get to spend $6,000-$8,000 a month for the same quality of service. My mom's 87, and has mild/moderate dementia. Here, the mixed facilities (those serving both the frail elderly and the memory-impaired) tend to lock up the memory-impaired in one wing of the facility and drug the heck out of them. Nurses? Technically, there's one on duty, but you can never find her. A doctor comes once a month; otherwise, it's the family's obligation to take their relative for medical care. Most of the care givers here are from foreign countries (Africa, mainly), with heavy accents and a different manner/style of care. For an extra charge, they administer medications, but they frequently make mistakes on the medication and dosages. We moved my mom out of that chamber of horrors and into another facility designed exclusively for those with memory impairments. And it's a lot better and a bit less expensive, too. (Still around $5,000. Hear that loud sucking sound? Is the sound of money being sucked out of the pockets of the elderly and into the pockets of those running these facilities.) There are more activities for her (and since not everyone is near-comatose from drugs, some people actually participate in those activities). As I say, that's the state of today's elder care. Good luck. |
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Re: HELP! IS MY MOTHER DOOMED IN THIS SO CALLED SENIOR GROUP HOME?
From: byrd-ga on 03 Jul 2005 12:14 PDT |
Wow, that's just terrible, mojob-ga. So sorry to hear of your and your mother's problems with this place. And great answer, Crabcakes-ga! Most excellent. I'm going to save those links myself, just as a precaution, as my 83-year-old mother is also in an assisted-living home in the Phoenix area. However, mojob-ga, I don't know whether moving your mother is an option for you or not, but for what it's worth, I thought I'd mention that in April of '04 we moved our mother into an assisted living facility in Mesa called Merrill Gardens, and she and we have been very happy with the choice. They also have homes in Chandler and Apache Junction. I know they're all a ways from Glendale, but they are also very nice places. My sister looked a long time to find them. Here's a link to the website: http://www.merrillgardens.com/ My mother has an efficiency apartment with bath for which she pays about $1500/month. It includes utilities, meals, laundry, and cleaning services, plus the use of the community facilities, like the game room, email, etc. and use of the van for errands, doctor appointments and such. She pays extra for someone to help her with her bath, and she also pays for her own telephone, personal supplies, and extras like field trips. It's not cheap, but it's not exorbitant either. My mother doesn' need nursing services, but Merrill Gardens does offer different levels of care. The info is on the site. Just passing along what I know in hopes it might be of some interest and/or use to you. Good luck. However, you decide to proceed, I wish you and your mother the best. Regards, Byrd-ga |
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Re: HELP! IS MY MOTHER DOOMED IN THIS SO CALLED SENIOR GROUP HOME?
From: waukon-ga on 04 Jul 2005 00:49 PDT |
This question has hit a nerve. I offer the observation that elder-care, of the assisted-living variety is considerably cheaper and far better in small-town Heartland America, by which I mean the small towns that dot the landscape west of Industrial Ohio and east of Denver, north to Canada, and avoiding the South and the Great Lakes cities. In small-town Heartland America, nearly everyone is related to everyone at least at the third-cousin level, or by marriage. Elder-abuse happens less in such environments, and the price for assisted living is considerably cheaper. |
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