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Temperatures of coffee at different depths within cup
Category: Science Asked by: coffeetemp-ga List Price: $2.50 |
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11 Jul 2005 10:34 PDT
Expires: 28 Jul 2005 11:31 PDT Question ID: 542205 |
I need to find a publication that explains the different temperatures based on the different depths of a paper hot cup holding hot coffee. For example, in an 8 oz. cup of coffee in which the cup is approximately 4 inches tall, what are the differences in temperature 1.) at the very bottom of the cup, 2.) at the 1/2" mark, 3.) the 2" mark, 4.) 2 1/2" mark, 5.) 3" mark, 6.) 3 1/2" mark, etc. Someone once showed me these differences when he used a special computer monitoring program. He had a measuring device that had different temperature cables with nodules emerging from it (which hooked into the computer). He placed 6 nodules into a freshly poured cup of coffee at precise heights/depths. He then had the computer measure the difference of each of the 6 nodules over a period of 5 minutes. I no longer have this data, but would like to find a published report if possible. I need the information to come from a trusted source so that I can quote the publication. |
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Re: Temperatures of coffee at different depths within cup
From: brewman007-ga on 11 Jul 2005 13:57 PDT |
Through the use of a computer model and using engineering principles more info is needed. What is the diamaters of the cup (Top and bottom), the thickness of the paper, the orginal temperature of the coffee, and the outside temperature to name a few? Can we assume that there is no wind, no other heat sources in the room, no lid, and plain black coffee to name a few. Are you trying to see how the temperatures change from the pouring to the temperatures stay constant, the rate of cooling, or the different temperatures at different levels? The temperature gradient will be very small but I am assuming that the temperatures on top wil be higher than the ones at the bottom. I hope this helps. |
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Re: Temperatures of coffee at different depths within cup
From: coffeetemp-ga on 19 Jul 2005 08:50 PDT |
I don't have specific measurements for a cup, yet the idea in mind is for a traditional 8 oz. paper cup, e.g. a Starbucks 8 oz. cup with a plastic lid. Yes, you can assume no wind and plain black coffee. My goal is to find data that enables me to make a conclusion about the temperature of coffee from the top, middle and bottom of the cup when coffee is poured at 180 degrees Fahrenheit and eventually cools down to 100 degrees Fahrenheit. From the one test for which I don't have data for, I believe the temperatures at the bottom were hotter than at the top. I would like to be able to reach this conclusion based on data from a published article: "When coffee is poured into an 8 oz. paper cup with a starting temperature of 180 degrees Fahrenheit, the temperature at the top, middle and bottom of the cup vary only by +/- x.xxxx degrees Fahrenheit throughout the entire cooling process (when the cooling process is defined as 180 reducing down to 100 degrees Fahrenehit) when a plastic lid is placed on top (and vary only by +/- x.xxxx degrees Fahrenheit when a plastic lid is not placed on top)." I did find an article that asks the precise question that I need data for: "What if we wish to know the temperature at any position within the cup of coffee at any particular time?" Yet, the research performed center on ice-cold water because it was easier to work with. So, one of the items in the section "Further Questions" includes, "How well does this model work with hot coffee in the thermos instead of cold water?" Modeling Heat Flow in a Thermos. American Journal of Physics, July 2003. With J. Scherschel. http://www.bsu.edu/web/mkarls/ |
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Re: Temperatures of coffee at different depths within cup
From: realitor-ga on 19 Jul 2005 10:24 PDT |
Using an equation for 3D heat convection, you could probably do this. Unless the results are already available, this is most likely going to cost you much more than $2.50 for someone to model this particular situation. |
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