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Calculus I problem
Category: Science > Physics Asked by: wannabeleader-ga List Price: $3.00 |
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11 Jul 2005 15:59 PDT
Expires: 10 Aug 2005 15:59 PDT Question ID: 542358 |
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Re: Calculus I problem
From: realitor-ga on 11 Jul 2005 18:09 PDT |
This is my inaugural post. Please let me know your honest opinion. This comment assumes that you (or the people to whom this explanation will be given) have a basic understanding of the concepts of velocity and acceleration and their relationship to each other. It also assumes a basic knowledge of the "Power Rule" from Calculus (see definition here http://mathworld.wolfram.com/PowerRule.html). Note that since the units all "match," I will leave them out at first and save unit analysis for the end of my work. It looks a bit neater this way. Here goes: Recall that acceleration is defined as the change in velocity over a given time interval. That is, acceleration = (change in velocity)/(change in time). Another way of writing this is a = dv/dt. We are given v = (x^2 + 3x - 2); we must compute dv/dt. dv/dt = [d/dt](x^2 + 3x - 2). This can be broken down into = [d/dt](x^2) + [d/dt](3x) - [d/dt](2). [d/dt](x^2) = 2x by the power rule (as defined in the above link, with n = 2) [d/dt](3x) = 3 by the power rule (as defined in the above link, with n = 1) [d/dt](-2) = 0 by the power rule (as defined in the above link, with n = 0) Piecing this back together, we have dv/dt = 2x + 3. Recall that a = dv/dt = 2x + 3. Now we have our general acceleration equation; the only thing left to do is to substitute "2" for "x." So for x = 2, a = 2(2) + 3 = 4 + 3 = 7. Now to deal with the units. Velocity is given in cm/sec and x is given in cm. So the units of dv/dt will be the units of v divided by the units of t. That is, (cm/sec)/sec, or cm/(sec^2). So the acceleration at x = 2 will be a = 7 cm/(sec^2). |
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Re: Calculus I problem
From: realitor-ga on 11 Jul 2005 18:16 PDT |
I now see that several people have brought your attention to the fact that problems resembling homework and exam problems are not meant to be answered. I have answered this question in good faith, and was not aware of this stipulation until after posting my earlier comment. I don't see a way to remove my prior comment, so please accept this disclaimer that my response is not intended for use as an answer to a homework, exam, or quiz problem. I trust your integrity will steer you in the right direction. |
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Re: Calculus I problem
From: wannabeleader-ga on 11 Jul 2005 18:24 PDT |
I'm a little confused on the how you got your derivatives. My end answer was 56 cm/sec^2 |
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Re: Calculus I problem
From: wannabeleader-ga on 11 Jul 2005 18:30 PDT |
Isn't the chain rule only used when you are multiplying two numbers? |
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Re: Calculus I problem
From: realitor-ga on 11 Jul 2005 18:40 PDT |
Be careful...the chain rule and power rule are different things. The power rule simply states that if you have x raised to some power n, the derivative of x is: n times x raised to the n-1. That is: derivative of x^n = nx^(n-1) Example: n = 2: derivative of x^2 = 2x^1 = 2x (using n = 2). I'm not sure exactly where your trouble lies. Can you offer an explanation of the method you used to arrive at 56 cm/sec^2? |
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Re: Calculus I problem
From: wannabeleader-ga on 11 Jul 2005 18:44 PDT |
Sorry, I was confused for a minute. I think I fixed the derivates. Do you mind checking my work? DV/DT = D/DX(x^2 + 3x - 2) times DX/DT = (2x + 3)v = (2x +3)(x^2 + 3x - 2) Substitute x for 2 and: DV/DT = (2(2) + 3)(2^2 + 3 times 2 - 2) = 56 cm/sec^2 Does this look right? |
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Re: Calculus I problem
From: wannabeleader-ga on 11 Jul 2005 18:53 PDT |
I used the chain rule, but I don't know when I am suppose to use it and when I'm not. |
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Re: Calculus I problem
From: realitor-ga on 11 Jul 2005 21:03 PDT |
Oh, I misread something in your original problem statement. Let me get back to you in a little while. |
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Re: Calculus I problem
From: realitor-ga on 11 Jul 2005 21:13 PDT |
Ah, I've been brainwashed. I have done most of these sorts of problems with velocity as function of time, and here it is position-dependent. I didn't even realize that I was mixing my "x's" and "t's" until just now. Now, for your long awaited answer: You can do the problem using the method and steps I stated, but the part where I mispoke is that it should be dv/dx rather than dv/dt. So everywhere you see a "t" in the original answer, make it an "x." Then you will see that you don't need to use the chain rule. I've done so many of these problems before that were of the form v = at^2 + bt + c that it didn't even occur to me that you wrote "x's" on the right hand side and not "t's." So you have a(x) = dv/dx = [d/dx](x^2 + 3x - 2) = 2x + 3 a(2) = 2(2) + 3 = 7 cm/sec^2 Make sense now? |
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Re: Calculus I problem
From: wannabeleader-ga on 12 Jul 2005 05:12 PDT |
Thank you. Maybe you could help me with my other problems? |
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Re: Calculus I problem
From: pouria77-ga on 16 Jul 2005 23:54 PDT |
v=x^2+3x-2 (1) a=d/dt(v) (2) (2) -> a=(dx/dt)*(d/dx)(v)=v*(d/dx)v :chain rule (3) (1) -> (d/dx)v=2x+3 (4) (3),(4) -> a=(x^2+3x-2)*(2x+3)=2x^3+9x^2+5x-6 a(x=2)=56 cm/s^2 |
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Re: Calculus I problem
From: b7rk-ga on 24 Jul 2005 14:20 PDT |
v(x)=dx/dt=x^2+3x-2 a(x)=d/dt[v(x)]=2x(dx/dt)+3(dx/dt) if x=2 then dx/dt=4+2*3-2=8 a(2)=2*2*8+3*8=56 as units were not changed, they should be consistent now. a(x=2)=56 cm/sec^2 |
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