Where to purchase the actual network video of the 1964 NFL
Championship Game between the Browns and Colts.

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Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 14 Jul 2005 09:23 PDT

Are you just looking for the game on video (from any source) or do you
actually have to have the network version complete with commercials
and everything? The reason I ask is because I can produce a source
that has this championship game [IN COLOR by the way] on video tape
but I don't know if it is the network version or not [because it has
some "significant" bonus footage of the pregame interviews and
commentary PLUS some never-before-seen footage of the Browns on the
practice field and in the locker room].

Please let me know if you want this source as an answer.

regards;
tutuzdad-ga

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Clarification of Question by mike1107-ga on 14 Jul 2005 11:20 PDT

Thanks for getting back to me..... 

I have a video that has the content you refer to..... pregame
interviews, Brown's on the practice field, and color 'highlights' of
the game with Chris Schenkel narrating.

What I want is the Network broadcast complete with sound. This is the
Holy Grail for Brown's fans, especially since this was the last time
ANY thing was won in any sport!!!! I can't believe CBS or some
affliate, or retired player doesn't have it. Hope this clarify's
things.

Mike Reilly

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Request for Question Clarification by tutuzdad-ga on 20 Jul 2005 07:35 PDT

I am told by a collector that there are only two NFL "full-game"
broadcasts that exist in their entirety before 1969 and the 1964 game
you are seeking is NOT one of them.

Sorry
tutuzdad-ga

I believe that CBS recorded over (in other words, erased) its tape of
Super Bowl I.  That doesn't mean that CBS recorded over its tape of
the 1964 NFL Championship Game; but it's a reminder that the networks
didn't necessarily realize the value of these tapes then.

Mike1107 is certainly aware of earlier research to attempt to find a
copy of this film or video tape -- but other researchers may not be:
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=66168

Best regards,

Omnivorous-GA

Thanks guys for the work. I am aware of "Prelude to a Championship", I
have it. I can't believe that CBS would not have that game. I saw the
actual video of a few plays in the 1961 NFL Championship (Green Bay vs
NY Giants). You can tell by the 'halo' affect of the cameras used.

Maybe some retired Browns may know??

Mike1107

Well, it's amazing to us now, but back in the days, they didn't do a
real good job of keeping tapes of live broadcasts. Videotape was
expensive, and they probably didn't realize that anyone would want to
watch it 40 years later. (How would they know it would be the Browns'
last title for at least 40 years?) There are lots of other great TV
moments apparently lost forever. In 1957, years before starting
folk-rock careers, high-school students Paul Simon and Art Garfunkel
appeared on American Bandstand as the rock-and-roll duo "Tom and
Jerry." Unless you happened to be watching that day, or someone finds
the tape in a garage somewhere, you'll never see it.

As far as I know, the oldest game of any significance available to
collectors is Super Bowl III. The oldest Browns game I've found is the
first game of Monday Night Football against the Jets in 1970. Maybe
you should try to find a copy of that game; it's an important piece of
TV history, and it allows you to see how Keith Jackson, Don Merideth
and Howard Cosell called Leroy Kelly, Bill Nelsen and Fair Hooker
(Merideth: "Isn't that a great name?" Cosell: "No comment."). You'd
also get to see Joe Namath play a really terrible game.