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Viability of small human populations
Category: Family and Home > Families Asked by: ghammond-ga List Price: $15.00 |
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17 Jul 2005 09:07 PDT
Expires: 16 Aug 2005 09:07 PDT Question ID: 544499 |
I am watching the new Battlestar Galactica, and it got me to wondering: what is the absolute smallest human population that has sufficient genetic diversity to be viable in the long term? And how much larger does it have to be before there's no need to explicitly manage for diversity? I mean right now, in our countries of millions, no-one really needs to keep track to ensure that inbreeding doesn't threaten our long term survival, it just happens automagically, as enough people move away from where they were born to faraway cities and find partners there. | |
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Re: Viability of small human populations
From: myoarin-ga on 17 Jul 2005 16:39 PDT |
ghammond, Yours is a very interesting question. I immediately thought of the Pitcairn Islanders, originally only 6 British sailers, 2 Tahitian men and 8 women. (Numbers from one of the sites. I thought they were more.) The last of the sites below may be a good starting point. The others discuss the subject from different points of view. There is one - with links to related articles - that mentions cases of sexual abuse among the small population. I included it to propose totally inappropriate question: if it could be demonstrated that the choice of young girls who were misused agreed with a genetic analysis of the population that indicated that just that man and that girl were a couple with the least inbreeding. I am sure this comment is not an answer to your question, but hope that you will find the sites to be useful. Myoarin http://jom-emit.cfpm.org/2004/vol8/gatherer_d.html http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs/4055.asp?vPrint=1 http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/sciencenow/3209/01-diamond.html http://millennium-debate.org/ind3july4.htm http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/from_our_own_correspondent/2990726.stm http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/tp_east.htm http://www.tamu.edu/classes/plan/magill/gene310/popgen/H-W_equil.html http://www.tamu.edu/classes/plan/magill/gene310/PDF%20files/popgen.pdf This last site discusses the genetic problems in a way that a layperson may be able to understand. |
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Re: Viability of small human populations
From: pinkfreud-ga on 17 Jul 2005 16:46 PDT |
Some of the info here may be of interest to you: http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=378894 |
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Re: Viability of small human populations
From: frde-ga on 18 Jul 2005 05:24 PDT |
In pre-internet days I remember reading something about Indian uncle-niece procreation being both (historically) common and with no measureable problems. Provided the small population implemented eugenics (or more accurately culling unsatisfactory sports) it seems likely that one could maintain and increase a population from very few members - subject to a plentiful supply of food and minimal external risks. As an aside I've often wondered about the sacrifice of the 'first born', Molloch, Herod et al. I've got a theory that it might be an ancient survival mechanism. It is very likely that the 'inbred cretin' syndrome found in some areas is because the more successful specimems walked away to pastures new, leaving the failed 'sports' to carry on with each other - de-selective breeding. Personally I have noticed a distinct preference for genetic diversity, both in myself and in my friends. |
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Re: Viability of small human populations
From: speedomaniac-ga on 14 Aug 2005 14:46 PDT |
in inbred population more than the lack of genetic diversity by it self, the real problem is the occurence of recessive diseases. a patient with a recessive disease receive a defective gene version from both his parents in contrary to dominant disease. "autosomal recessive defect - a disease caused by the presence of two recessive mutant genes on an autosome" the typical example is in pakistan where inbreeding is high and where the sudies on large scale of recessive disease is possible |
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