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swelling in leg little on right s/face
Category: Health > Conditions and Diseases Asked by: welcome5-ga List Price: $15.00 |
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18 Jul 2005 13:10 PDT
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Re: swelling in leg little on right s/face
From: bkdaniels-ga on 20 Jul 2005 08:53 PDT |
Hey welcome5-ga, how are you doing? Ask your sister how have her menstrual periods been, e.g. regular irregular, or not at all. REFERENCE Divina Gracia Rualo-Rualo-Pasigan, M.D.: Premenstrual Tension Funk & Wagnalls Family Medical Guide (sec. 219); chap. 13 THE FEMALE REPREDUCTIVE SYSTEM; p. 408. Best wishes, |
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Re: swelling in leg little on right s/face
From: weiskraut-ga on 20 Jul 2005 17:42 PDT |
It certainly sounds as if your sister's thyroid is involved to some degree, but her doctor seems to have ruled that out. Right-sided swelling may also be related to sodium sensitivity. On this site: http://www.acu-cell.com/pna.html there are several references to this "sided-ness" in regard to kidney functions and corresponding symptoms: *************************** "People who are sodium-sensitive generally are well aware of their problem, as they quickly retain fluid when ingesting larger amounts of salt, or their blood pressure rises. The rest might get some interesting feedback on their sodium tolerance (if unknown) when drinking a medium-sized glass of water saturated with common table salt. Either this will have no effect at all, or within hours, they will have to keep running to the bathroom all of a sudden, with some individuals losing perhaps as much as 10-15 lb of water weight. When selectively overdosing on phosphorus / protein or sodium beyond an individual's renal capacity, and provided both kidneys are equally efficient at the start, the right kidney will become diseased first with sodium, and the left one first with phosphorus (or protein). Very one-sided diets, or long- term use of specific drugs can affect both kidneys differently as well. Long-term monitoring of patients shows high / low sodium-related cases being more right-side specific in regard to joint damage, while high / low protein + phosphate-related cases are generally more left-side specific in regard to joint damage, so striking a happy medium goes a long way in the prevention of many of these problems." *************************** If your sister does find that salt intake affects her swelling, then she may need extra potassium and/or magnesium (among other things), which would have to be evaluated by a medical practitioner. And of course, her salt intake would have to be adjusted accordingly. There are a number of other possibilities ranging from heart disease, dental intervention, to a spider / insect bite that may have triggered her swelling, but that would be difficult to pinpoint over the net. |
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Re: swelling in leg little on right s/face
From: welcome5-ga on 21 Jul 2005 12:52 PDT |
Dear Daniels, thanks for the question and comment. He menstrual Periods has been normal (I asked her today) and on-time. Please let me know if there is any other information I should provide. Dear weiskraut-ga, thanks for your comments and information. She has been all normal with regard to salt taking always. I am thinking how a person can turn around and change with the way she takes, absorbs and processes salt. In an x-ray that shae had a while ago, it showed that her veins in right leg are narrower and not as thick as the ones on right side. Is that a big deal? Ever since I remember, they had problem finding her veins when they wanted to do blood test or something, but again, if there is something more serious, we don't want to distract from serios things that we should concentrate on , rather than being focused on her tiny veins. thanks again. |
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Re: swelling in leg little on right s/face
From: weiskraut-ga on 21 Jul 2005 21:17 PDT |
"I am thinking how a person can turn around and change with the way she takes, absorbs and processes salt..." Hello welcome5-ga, Kidney capacity declines over a lifetime, and so does the ability to process sodium (i.e. salt). Even without a genetic trend, some medications such as Aspirin or other NSAIDs accelerate that process and can lead to reduced kidney functions earlier in life, which can manifest itself in edema (water retention). At her age, she shouldn't theoretically have that problem, but this doesn't mean that it could not happen. But to find out if she is salt-sensitive, she would have to try a greater intake of salt at one time, and see what kind of response she'll get (as mentioned in my previous post). While the "tiny veins" in her right leg could be a contributing problem, it is usually a lack of support from the "valves" inside the veins that tend to cause leg swelling, which is very common in elderly females. If this were the cause, then the water retention would be more obvious from standing for a longer period of time, and it would go down on its own from elevating her right leg. Since diuretics (water pills) seemed to have helped her somewhat according to your post, there is still a good chance that she may be naturally low in potassium or magnesium - which would normally offset sodium retention, or that there is a general electrolyte imbalance - which can happen at any age. This of course would go beyond trial and error and should be evaluated by a doctor. |
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Re: swelling in leg little on right s/face
From: bkdaniels-ga on 22 Jul 2005 06:20 PDT |
Hey welcome-ga, how are you doing? This type of edema pits and disappears completely when the dermatitis has resolved. In addition to the various causes of localized edema and generalized edema there is a type of edema of the lower extremities that is not often reconized by the Physician. This is a bilateral pedal edema commonly seen in patients with subacute or chronic dermatitis of the lower extremities. This type of edema is most often seen in chronic eczematous dermatitis but is unrelated to cardiac failure of lympathatic obstruction. It is most probably due to an increased permeability as a result of local capillary damage, which is part of the inflammatory process in the skin. The increased capillary premeability leads to an increased transfer of fluid from the intravascular to the extravascular component of the extracellular-fluid space. (Fitzpatrick, Haynes 269) REFERENCE T.B. Fitzpatrick and H.A. Haynes: Edema Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine; Eight Edition; sec. 9 ALTERATIONS IN THE SKIN; chap. 54, p. 269. Best wishes, |
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Re: swelling in leg little on right s/face
From: welcome5-ga on 22 Jul 2005 11:47 PDT |
Thank you guys for information you have contributed. I called her today to ask her if she can drink a cup of water with some salt in it, to see if she feels she need to rush to washroom to test for the comment weiskraut made on this posting. she said, that she has been rushing to washrooms ever since this problem started or maybe even a just few weeks before the swelling started about 2 months back. She said now when she has to go to washroom, is not like old days that she could hold it and wait. Now she goes running after having just normal water or tea. She read to me the level of Potasium 4.4 in her lab results. She mentioned the normal level was stated as 3.5-5.3 in her lab papers. Also she said she is not eacting dinners anymore (since 4 days ago) and her face is not swellen when she wakes up in the morning, but still the legs (mostly the right leg) is swellen, and yes it gets worse during the day as she walks or is actively standing or sitting. thanks again. Please keep contributing your thoughts. Azam |
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Re: swelling in leg little on right s/face
From: weiskraut-ga on 22 Jul 2005 20:16 PDT |
Hello welcome5-ga, Since serum potassium is ok, that leaves magnesium as a potential remedy to help with right-sided edema if caused by salt sensitivity (or related kidney problems). It's hard to believe that your sister cannot get anyone to do the proper tests to figure out if this is due to a chemical imbalance, cardiac weakness, or simply bad veins - where her symptoms worsen from walking or standing, and improve with her legs elevated. However, you also mentioned in your last post that "she is not eacting dinners anymore (since 4 days ago)," which, I assume, means that she has been skipping supper for the last 4 days, which resolved the facial swelling in the morning. This of course opens up the possibility of an allergic reaction to something she had been having for supper on a regular basis. For instance, eating rhubarb, or real licorice by someone with seriously impaired kidney functions can not only have them swell up in a hurry, but get them close to kidney failure. Being mostly right-sided does suggest though that sodium (salt) could be at least part of the edema problem, which may improve with extra magnesium supplementation. In contrast to some other supplements, magnesium is relatively harmless when higher amounts are taken for a very short period of time, with the most likely adverse effects - if at all - being diarrhea or lowered stomach acid (bloating). |
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Re: swelling in leg little on right s/face
From: welcome5-ga on 23 Jul 2005 10:11 PDT |
Hello weiskraut-ga, Thanks for new information. My sister lives in Tehran, Iran. She has seen several doctors two of which had specialty in Kidney and one in heart and several just in internal medicine. Over there, doctors don?t create a file for you. You need to keep and carry your lab results with you, when you go to see different doctors. In most cases, patients change doctors without going back to the first one and letting him/her think harder to find and determine the illness for sure. Also doctor don't share with patients what illness they think the patient might have and don't tell about other possibilities, etc. They just right down on piece of papers, the order for lab, this and that and that is all. If they don't find anything in test result, they tell you there is nothing wrong with you and all it is, is related to stress, nerve system, etc. etc. Nothing serious. Let's forget about that place, here in US, I had a simple sinus infection and kept catching cold and running fever and headache every single month. I saw the doctor every month over and over and he gave me some Amoxicillin everytime. He insisted that I had Migrane and kept asking me if Migrane was running in the family. I had to help him and asked him (after asking him several times) to send me for x-ray and MIR from my Sinus. The x-ray/MIR proved my point. I have strong blieve that if doctors put all the parameters, informationo and equations in front of the patient, and ask the patient to help them to figure it out, they can resolve it together. Of course, theres are exceptions too. Those patients that confuse the doctors with false information or hiding the information from doctors. Anyhow, My sister, myself and you guys are left here to help us out to find what is wrong with her. I am going to ask her to ask her doctor for x-ray from kidney, lung, and (i don't know what else). Hopefully they come normal. Meanwhile she is going to try some magnesium supplementation. thanks again. |
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Re: swelling in leg little on right s/face
From: picnic-ga on 07 Aug 2005 08:55 PDT |
Body is a very complicated thing, much more complicated than a computer. Just as a computer doctor cannot always fix a computer, even a well-intentioned sincere medical doctor cannot always fix a human body. ? Doctors in the United States are ?slow? and over-cautious because of insurance and lawsuit issues. Doctors in many other countries are prompt and risk-takers, and at times can do certain things that US doctors cannot do. http://www.medic8.com/healthguide/articles/oedema.html explains that a swelling in leg (edema) can be due to heart disease, kidney disease, thyroid disease, blood-vessels disease, protein deficiency, or medication interaction. It is very difficult to correctly diagnose a swelling in leg. A few days back, I had a bruise on my left leg. A doctor prescribed an anti-biotic course, which I completed without asking a question. Perhaps because of this medication (or I don?t know what), I got a swelling below the bruise. It was painful. Because of weekend, I could not reach any doctor for help. What I did is this. (I very rarely do exercise.) I did ?shirshasan yoga? (standing upside down with head down legs up) for about half a minute. Then I swirled my legs (one by one) up to about 90 degree for several times. Then I slept with my legs elevated. All this improved my blood circulation and pushed the water out from the swelling area. And the swelling was almost gone. Perhaps this method can help in your case. Another thing that can be tried for improving the circulation is massaging the leg with a special oil. |
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Re: swelling in leg little on right s/face
From: welcome5-ga on 07 Aug 2005 09:35 PDT |
Hi Picnic, Welcome to the discussion and comments table and thanks for the tip. As of today Aug 7th, the swelling in my sister's leg has decreased a lot but still exist. She is taking some magnesium supplementation starting yesterday and I will soon post the result. I will tell her about what you are recommending. In a long run, whatever the reason is, I wonder if there would be a damage to kidney by retaining all the salt and remaining inflamation. thanks again. |
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