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Sound data reconstructor?
Category: Computers > Software Asked by: aidaan-ga List Price: $15.00 |
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21 Jul 2005 05:44 PDT
Expires: 20 Aug 2005 05:44 PDT Question ID: 546150 |
I am looking for a software sound processor (either a tool or a plugin, like a vst), that I would call an 'anti distortion' or 'anti clipping' filter. I have some sound data that is subtly but audibly clipping (distorting because it's recorded too loud). Is there any (preferably cheap or free!) software out there that can reconstruct clipped audio data? This may sound like a silly question (a big ask?), but in theory I believe it to be possible, so I thought I'd ask... By cheap I mean US$50-100 or so. |
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Re: Sound data reconstructor?
From: solentech-ga on 22 Jul 2005 12:42 PDT |
Try the demoware GOLDWAVE. it is a demo but i have used the demo forever and it lets you have like 150 or so commands before you must save your work and restart the program. thats unless you want to buy it for 45$. http://www.goldwave.com best regards, Solentech |
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Re: Sound data reconstructor?
From: aidaan-ga on 23 Jul 2005 21:32 PDT |
Hmm - as far as I can see goldwave doesn't perform the function I'm after (unless there is a plugin for it of course!). ;( Thanks anyway, Aidan |
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Re: Sound data reconstructor?
From: sublime1-ga on 24 Jul 2005 23:35 PDT |
Sound Forge is professional editing software, and seems to be capable of detecting and editing clipping: Clipped Peak Detection and Marking "Sound Forge software automatically scans sections of your file and marks sample peaks that are clipping. These indicators also show up in the Regions List for immediate identification. Audio Restoration tools eliminate clicks, pops, and other noise from your mix." http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/products/showproduct.asp?PID=961&FeatureID=8106 The program costs ~$300, but also has a free trial download. sublime1-ga |
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Re: Sound data reconstructor?
From: aidaan-ga on 25 Jul 2005 00:57 PDT |
Thanks sublime - I'm downloading the trial version now, but I'm sceptical that Sound Forge performs the function I'm after ... :( The sentence you quoted from their website seems close to answering my requirement but it doesn't sound like they have an "Audio Restoration tool" that actually reconstructs *clipped* sound data. I'll post again if I find that you are right! ;) Anyway, thanks again for your comment! |
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Re: Sound data reconstructor?
From: aidaan-ga on 25 Jul 2005 22:26 PDT |
Hmmm - I have downloaded and checked Sound Forge 8, but I can't find a way to reconstruct clipped audio data with it. The closest I can get to achieving this is using the "Audio Restoration" tool to remove noise, but this seems to destroy the tone of the sample. I am not an expert with the program, but it doesn't seem to have the function I am after. Just to reiterate, I've drawn an ascii (yay!) diagram... The hashes indicate data that has been lost during recording, that I would like to have reconstructed: ___ ___ /###\ /###\ /#####\ --/-----\-----/-------\------------ / \ / \ / \_/ \ \ / \ / ---------------------------\----/-- \##/ ŻŻ The way I expected a program to achieve this is to calculate a simple cubic curve between the start and end of each clipped region. I would have thought that using this technique, the difference between the reconstructed wave and the original (unclipped) wave would have been inaudible, at least for subtly damaged or simple waves. Can anyone correct me, or should I just write a program/plugin to do this? |
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Re: Sound data reconstructor?
From: sublime1-ga on 05 Aug 2005 18:07 PDT |
aidaan... Sorry - I temporarily lost track of your question in the course of a computer crash. I think the Audio Restoration tool in Sound Forge 8 may be as close as it gets to what you're trying to do, short of some sort of audio reconstruction software used, say, by the CIA and the like, which would cost a small fortune (or maybe a large one). Given the nature of clipping, the data is essentially lost, and while you might reconstruct it with averaging of the remaining data, it will never sound quite the same. If you succeed in creating a plugin that accomplishes this to your satisfaction, it would likely be marketable. Let me know... sublime1-ga sublime1-ga |
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Re: Sound data reconstructor?
From: aidaan-ga on 06 Aug 2005 02:49 PDT |
Heh, yeah sublime I think you might be right - clipping *is* lost data, and is probably unrecoverable. Perhaps my request was a little naive! I'll have a go at creating a simple reconstructor (using cubics), which will probably close the book on that one (or open a can of worms!). Thanks for your comments - I'll post back here if after (if) I get around to creating that program. |
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Re: Sound data reconstructor?
From: neilaudiodotcom-ga on 15 Sep 2005 21:24 PDT |
Because the sound information technically doesnt exist above full-code, you could try reducing the volume of the entire sound file in Sound Forge, then select the peaks that are gone one at a time and use a command in SoundForge called "Replace". This command will search the file for a fraction of a waveform that it feels 'fits' that gap. More often than not, it finds seamless replacement data. I use it all the time when restoring badly recorded dialogue - that or draw in the waveform manually. Regards, Neil Parfitt |
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