What does a "Grangerized" scrapbook page look like? (James Granger 1723-1776)
I am trying to find good image/s of the earliest known example/s of a
scrapbook page/s to searve as visual support material and I will need to
footnote the source....Thanks for your assistance.
Todd Bartel |
Clarification of Question by
collagehead-ga
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24 Jul 2005 20:59 PDT
If it is at all possible, I would love to have an eighteenth century
example, barring that, I need the visual examples to predate 1900.
Thanks for you continued assistance.
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answerfinder-ga
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25 Jul 2005 04:27 PDT
Dear collagehead-ga
I wonder as to whether this meets your needs. This is an illistrated
book which has additional etchings and pages.
A VIEW OF OLD LONDON AS IT APPEARED IN 1560
George Whitelaw and Charles Evans
London 1851
The owner notes that: "My edition of this book is the framework for
about forty extra plates derived from a range of unusual sources
before 1851."
http://www.fulltable.com/London/london.htm
Frontpiece
http://www.fulltable.com/London/im/01.jpg
The Scran Trust of Scotland have some pages from the grangerised
"History of the Berwickshire Naturalists Club volume 1831-1838". The
images are very small however, and you have to be a registered member
to view them in full. If you are a member of an academic institution
it may be worth contacting them to see whether you could have better
access.
http://www.scran.ac.uk/database/results.php?field=where&searchterm=%22Berwick+upon+Tweed%22&searchdb=scran
It is a pity that the National Portarit Gallery in the UK have not yet
finished their project:
"During the second year of the project, two finely bound sets of
extra-illustrated or 'grangerised' volumes are to be digitised. These
sets derive from the 18th and 19th century fashion for collecting
portrait and other engravings and are named after the Reverend James
Granger whose A Biographical History of England from Egbert the Great
to the Revolution (1769) provided a model and framework for
extra-illustration."
http://www.npg.org.uk/live/dcmsprint.asp
Let me know whether this answers your question.
answerfinder-ga
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Clarification of Question by
collagehead-ga
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27 Jul 2005 00:26 PDT
Dear Google Answer Team,
Thank you for your timely reply,
What you have sent me is good start and I am most appreciative for
that! I like having the first page and good examples of all the
"extra" "grangerized" bookplates, with their sources. What I would
really like however, if at all possible, is to have an overall context
image of the way the page/s look as a collage prototype, showing the
composition and arrangement of plates on the extra blank pages. I am
doing a study on the existence of collage practices prior to the dates
1911/12 [and 1908] for Pablo Picasso's invention of collage in the
field of painting. Ideally, I would be able to show actual images of
grangerized pages containing several pasted images on a two-page
spread. What you have sent me is most useful, but without the context
of seeing the early use of collage practices, it is not entirely what
I need. I like that each image (on web page:
http://www.fulltable.com/London/london.htm) can be enlarged as
separate images, which is great for the detail and quality, but only
two of those images (maps) begin to indicate that they have been glued
to a blank page, and unfortunately, they do not have enough context
information to sufficiently communicate that they have indeed been
grangerized. It would be great to have an image of an open book with
a pastiche of imported or grangerized images on the left page and on
the right. I hope my response clarifies my question and my need. I
am most grateful for your assistance. I love searching for things on
the web and am a big fan of Goggle, but this particular search has
eluded me for some time now...
Todd Bartel
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Clarification of Question by
collagehead-ga
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27 Jul 2005 00:32 PDT
ooooopss how silly to have spelled Google wrong in my clarification!....Sorry!
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Request for Question Clarification by
answerfinder-ga
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27 Jul 2005 09:30 PDT
Dear Todd,
I had anticipated your requirements and had already searched for such
images without any luck. From the image databases that I have viewed,
they seemed to have imaged the one document and not how it related to
the rest of the page or book as a whole. An example is this one from
Durham University where they discuss the problems of grangerised
volumes.
http://www.dur.ac.uk/Library/asc/pip/technical/projmgmt.html
http://www.dur.ac.uk/picturesinprint/
Perhaps another researcher may be more successful
answerfinder-ga
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Clarification of Question by
collagehead-ga
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28 Jul 2005 20:01 PDT
Dear answerfinder-ga,
Thanks for trying. What should I do next? Do you have any suggestions?
Todd
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Request for Question Clarification by
answerfinder-ga
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30 Jul 2005 03:10 PDT
Dear Todd,
I?m not sure where in the world you are located, but here in the UK I
would contact a good library or museum with historical archives such
as the British Library or City of London?s Guildhall Library, and see
whether they have such an image. If not, I would have to arrange for
them to photograph a grangerised book. Obviously to have such a
photograph taken would be expensive.
If you're in the US perhaps you could try the Library of Congress.
answerfinder
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Clarification of Question by
collagehead-ga
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03 Aug 2005 07:55 PDT
I do live in the US and will certainly try the Lib. of Congress.
Thanks for everything.
Todd
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