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Subject: Estimation cost to build a church
Category: Miscellaneous
Asked by: bp05-ga
List Price: $100.00
Posted: 26 Jul 2005 14:37 PDT
Expires: 25 Aug 2005 14:37 PDT
Question ID: 548215
We plan to buy about 1 acre commercial lot in Colton (California) and
build a church. Can you tell me how much the minimum budget we have to
provide if the building area is about 9000 sqFt with 72 cars parking
lot? Please explain the procedures regarding legal matters also.
Thanks.

Clarification of Question by bp05-ga on 26 Jul 2005 14:41 PDT
The parking lot area is about 30,000 SqFt.
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Subject: Re: Estimation cost to build a church
Answered By: jbf777-ga on 01 Aug 2005 14:41 PDT
Rated:5 out of 5 stars
 
Hello -

I spoke to two construction companies and asked them to give me a
ballpark estimate as to what the minimal budget would be for this kind
of project.  One of them quoted $100 per square foot, and another was
$150 per square foot (parking lot included -- no additional price per
square foot).  Both assumed basic wood frame, panelized roof, masonry
block walls, and sheetrocked interior.  In addition, utilities that
have to be brought in from the street will each cost somewhere in the
$20,000 range.  This will be dependent on the property/location.

Companies consulted:

  Bremco Construction Co. 
  Proudly Serving Los Angeles 
  (562) 595-4687 (Ask Bill)
  (562) 424-8799 (fax)
  Estimate: $100 per square foot 
  
  Pinecones International Inc 
  440 S Cataract Ave, Ste K, San Dimas, CA 91773 
  (909) 592-9292 (Ask Ted)
  (909) 592-0045 (fax) 
  (877) 374-6326 (toll-free) 
  Email: info@pinecones-intl.com
  Estimate: $150 per square foot (includes parking lot), maybe less...


Step-by-step instructions are below with regards to legal matters
concerning your building.  Hiring an architect to assist in drawing
site plans, elevations, and building plans will be required as one of
your first steps.  Important update to site requirements for your
architect: Amount of required landscaping has been reduced to 15% from
25%.

1) Check zoning for your site.  Zones R-1, R-2, R-3, and C-1 require a
conditional permit; however, C-2 is permitted without one.  Ask for
the Planning Department at 909-370-5079.  They will tell you the zone
for the property.  Requirements for each zone are listed at this link:

http://bpc.iserver.net/codes/colton/index.htm


2) Submit 12 copies (or 22 if conditional zone) of site plans and 12
(or 22 if conditional zone) elevations, along with preliminary title
report, samples board, with development application, found here:

http://www.ci.colton.ca.us/Documents/Community%20Development/Planning/developmentapp.pdf

Submit to:

  Community Development
  659 N. La Cadena
  Colton, CA 92324

Requirements for site plans are here:

http://www.ci.colton.ca.us/Documents/Community%20Development/Planning/ppreq.pdf


3) You will then participate in design review meeting.  You will
receive a letter within about two weeks with a decision as to whether
you're permitted to build.


5) Call (909-370-5079) and ask for Jesse Webster to discuss, among
other requirements, how many building plans to submit.  Confirm the
following address:

    Jesse Webster
    Community Development
    659 N. La Cadena
    Colton, CA 92324

You will be notified within a few weeks of what corrections are necessary.


6) Building permits will be granted.  Start building!



If you need any additional clarification or information, please don't
hesitate to ask.

Thank you,

jbf777
Researcher
Google Answers


Sources:
Colton Community Development
909-370-5079 (Chris)
http://www.ci.colton.ca.us/

Request for Answer Clarification by bp05-ga on 04 Aug 2005 12:22 PDT
Dear jbf777-ga,

Thank you for the answer to my question. I appreciate for your help.
I need you to clarify below:
1. The price for $100 per sqft, is it included with parking lot area?
2. Can you estimate the total cost or breakdown for utilities?
3. The estimate cost for hiring Architect?
4. The price range for lot per sqft in Colton area?
5. How about the fence, concrete area and landscaping?

Again thanks for your effort and your help in this matter.

Regards, Bing

Clarification of Answer by jbf777-ga on 07 Aug 2005 08:29 PDT
Hello bing -

1. The price for $100 per sqft, is it included with parking lot area?

Parking lot is included with both quotes (no additional price per
square foot for the parking lot).

2. Can you estimate the total cost or breakdown for utilities?

It's impossible to tell without knowing the exact property, but you
can figure somewhere in the range of $20,000 per utility that must be
brought from the road to your property.  Some properties will already
have one or more utilities at your location, so you won't incur that
cost as appropriate.


I am currently out of town, so I will get back to you by Friday on the
additional questions.

Thanks,

jbf777

Clarification of Answer by jbf777-ga on 12 Aug 2005 15:02 PDT
3. The estimate cost for hiring Architect?

I spoke to two architects in the area.  Both agreed that 8%-12% of
total construction costs is a good estimate for the price of an
architect.  That price would include a turnkey solution: architectural
and civil engineering for everything -- site plans, building,
elevations, interior, exterior, budgeting, approvals etc.

A+K Architects (does churches all the time)
2172 Dupont Dr. #22
Irvine, CA 92612-1357
Phone: (949) 955-9112
www.aplusk.com 

Jonathan L Zane Architecture 
958 N La Cadena Dr 
(909) 825-7500
376-7138


More architects can be found here:

AIA
http://www.aia.org/architect_finder/search_results.asp?mode=s

and here:

://www.google.com/local?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&sa=X&near=Colton,+CA+92324&q=category:+Architects




4. The price range for lot per sqft in Colton area?

I spoke to Sierra Realty, who gave me some quotes on current lot
offerings in the Colton Area.


 65,340 sq. ft (1.5 acres): $850,000 (Lockadena Dr.)   = $13 / sq. ft.
58,806 sq. ft (1.35 acres): $1,090,000 (West Mill St.)  = $18 / sq. ft.  
   21,780 sq. ft (.5 acre): $365,000 (Colton Ave.) = $16.7 / sq. ft

So, range is around $13 - $16.  However, location will of course have
a lot to do with price.


Contact: 
Sierra Realty
9410 Sierra Ave
Fontana, 92335
(909) 822-1197



   

5. How about the fence, concrete area and landscaping?

Without knowing your criteria and layout, it would be difficult to
budget this.  How big is the fence, the concrete area?  What kind of
trees, bushes?  What kind of fence?  How much landscaping?  Part of
the architectual cost cited above would provide budgetary values for
this.
bp05-ga rated this answer:5 out of 5 stars
Thank you very much for all your efforts to help us in providing the
information. I really appreciate it!

Comments  
Subject: Re: Estimation cost to build a church
From: myoarin-ga on 28 Jul 2005 13:23 PDT
 
Dear bp05-ga - Bing,

I wish that I could help you with this and your other questions,
especially in recognition for your comments on two religious
questions.  My respects!

I sincerely hope someone can help you with the plans for your church.

Myoarin
Subject: Re: Estimation cost to build a church
From: myoarin-ga on 30 Jul 2005 20:08 PDT
 
Bing,
A researcher had a lock on your question and gave up, which suggests
that a definite answer is not possible.
A couple of thoughts from a layman:
Check with the county that the zoning code causes no problems with
having a church on that property.  A residential area could preclude a
semi-public building and also a parking lot.  In a non-residential
area there could also be conditions that you need to know about before
you purchase.
If you can find a recently established church in the greater area,
your counterpart would have experience, maybe also on minimum budget
construction.
The county and state building codes need to be observed.  What may
seem to be a perfectly adequate prefabricated building may not meet
the requirements for an assembly hall  - emergency exits, toilets,
fire control, ...

I wish you success, Myoarin

PS: in a comment to one question, you gave an email address.  That
could be deleted, see FAQs.
Subject: Re: Estimation cost to build a church
From: jbf777-ga on 30 Jul 2005 22:02 PDT
 
Just a note: I am still actually working on your question; I have the
first half completed.

Thanks for your patience,

jbf777
Researcher
Google Answers
Subject: Re: Estimation cost to build a church
From: jbf777-ga on 15 Aug 2005 18:14 PDT
 
You're welcome!  Thanks for the rating, and please stop by again!

jbf777

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