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Subject: Which FOOD words are also ART words?
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference
Asked by: videoga-ga
List Price: $6.00
Posted: 27 Jul 2005 06:59 PDT
Expires: 26 Aug 2005 06:59 PDT
Question ID: 548484
I would like to know how to find words, phrases or names, each of
which is related both to food and to art.

Reason: 
I am compiling (for fun) a crossword which is to include both food
words and art(ist) words. I would like to find some words which are in
both categories.

These categories can be interpreted very loosely.  Vegetables, names
of dishes, cuts of meat, famous cookery writers, spices ... ; schools
of art, names of painters, statues, titles of works of art, media,
names of galleries ...

Of course it is 'easy' to find lists of food words and lists of
art(ist) words in books. Also, byrd-ga, in answering GA question
534509, told us about the OneLook Reverse Dictionary
<http://www.onelook.com/reverse-dictionary.shtml>.
I could combine a huge food list with a huge art/ist list, and see
which words occur twice. But that is hard work. Don't try that for me
for $6.

I don't need all that many, as only a few can be fitted into a 15x15
crossword grid. A dozen as good as my examples below would be fine.

Does anyone *know* a simple way to do this?  I can't afford to pay you
a realistic amount to do extensive research.  But perhaps there is an
elegant solution?

Examples: 
MUNCH, BACON, POUSSIN (all painter's surnames).  
THE POTATO EATERS (painting by Van Gogh).  

ARCIMBOLDO (painter of portraits using vegetable components).  
VINDALOO AND RICE (well-known anagram of) LEONARDO DA VINCI. 
BASIL BRUSH (much-beloved humorous UK TV fox puppet, herb and artist's implement!)

OK, it would be hard work to find many examples like the last three.
But at least you see what I mean.

It's a long shot, but interesting, don't you think?

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 27 Jul 2005 08:31 PDT
I like this kind of question, and actually think I may have come up
with a resource that will work for you.

The London Food Film Festival had a series on Food and Art, and put
together a website of famous painters and their food-related works:


http://www.londonfoodfilmfiesta.co.uk/Artmai~1/Artist~1.htm


Click on any artist of interest for links to multiple food-related works.

Does this do the trick?


paf

Clarification of Question by videoga-ga on 27 Jul 2005 15:48 PDT
This is a neat and unexpected suggestion, pafalafa-ga (bad luck
answerfinder-ga!).  It should certainly generate some ideas in the
"food as the subject of a picture" category.

The Google Images searches suggested by czh-ga are worth a look but
include non-art photographs, line-art and so on as well as 'real' art.

Lists of individual suggestions as in myoarin-ga's comment are of
course welcome, though again mainly restricted so far to the "food as
the subject of a picture" category. By all means offer more, anyone.

I'm interested to know there are books on the subject: 
 Food in Painting: From the Renaissance to the Present / Kenneth Bendiner
 Feasting: Celebration of Food in Art / James Yood 

I think I'll have to rule out the likes of 
 The Art of the Tart / Tamasin Day-Lewis 
 The Art of Food Sculpture / Yuci Tan

My main hope is that there will be suggestions about finding words in
the other categories shown in my examples.  I was hoping for a direct
approach, using an online thesaurus perhaps ... anyone knowledgeable
about the semantic web and all that?  Perhaps this asks too much.

Any further lines of enquiry from you clever people?  

Thanks, 

video-ga

Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 28 Jul 2005 07:13 PDT
I don't know if you'll find a resource for food-art anagrams and the
like.  Could be that the Londonfest site is the closest you'll get to
a resource that's directly on point.

But I just wanted to make sure that -- whatever resources you wind up
using -- you don't overlook Andy Warhol's famous Campbells Soup can:

http://www.artlex.com/ArtLex/p/images/pop_warhol.cam.tomat.lg.jpg


paf

Request for Question Clarification by czh-ga on 28 Jul 2005 10:13 PDT
Hello videoga-ga,

I'm not sure what you're looking for but here are a bunch of resources
to help you with the intersection of art and food. Will these do as an
answer? Thanks.

~ czh ~

http://www.bestwebbuys.com/Art-General-N_10001144-books.html
Food in art -- Books
47 Books found.

http://humanitiesweb.org/human.php?s=g&p=g&a=d&ID=8
Still Life
Artists and Works

http://www.getty.edu/research/conducting_research/digitized_collections/ediblemonument/index2.html
The Edible Monument -- The Art of Food for Festivals

http://rateyourmusic.com/lists/list_view/list_id_is_7923
Artists named after food (23)

http://bringmeabook.homestead.com/files/GWKBooks/ActivityBooks/PlayFood.jpg
http://www.4to40.com/fastforward/index.asp?article=fastforward_may2001_letsplaywithyourfood
Play with Your Food

http://a1259.g.akamai.net/f/1259/5586/1d/images.art.com/images/PRODUCTS/large/10021000/10021243.jpg
Don`t Play with Your Food

http://www.foodmuseum.com/funpage.html
Quizzes and Puzzles
Exhibits
Play
Projects 

http://www.gastronomica.org/gastro/pages/content.html
Gastronomica
The Journal of Food and Culture

Clarification of Question by videoga-ga on 29 Jul 2005 06:40 PDT
Thanks czh-ga for your thoughts.  I'm sorry but I know how to find
titles of books that might be relevant.  Some of your links might
ultimately lead to something, although by 'artists' I do mean painters
etc. and not rock bands.  The last few links are amusing but not
really illuminating.  Gastronomica looks interesting in itself but
nothing seems to be downloadable anyway.

In fact pafalafa's one offering is still in the lead for helpfulness. 

I am still hoping that someone will come up with a list of specific
suggestions as in my examples and be able to explain a way of
generating them, but perhaps I am asking for something that cannot be
done.  Further one-off comments are also welcome.

I don't want this to become one of those questions where much time is
wasted but no-one gets paid, but this is not near enough to be taken
as an answer so soon I'm afraid ... any other offers please?

videoga
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Comments  
Subject: Re: Which FOOD words are also ART words?
From: pafalafa-ga on 27 Jul 2005 07:12 PDT
 
The Last Supper
Subject: Re: Which FOOD words are also ART words?
From: pafalafa-ga on 27 Jul 2005 07:24 PDT
 
Monet's Picnic (Dejeuner sur l'herbe)
Subject: Re: Which FOOD words are also ART words?
From: pafalafa-ga on 27 Jul 2005 08:30 PDT
 
Or is it Manet...I can never keep them straight?
Subject: Re: Which FOOD words are also ART words?
From: answerfinder-ga on 27 Jul 2005 08:38 PDT
 
Apart from listing lots of names of paintings which your puzzlers may
or may not know, I'm not quite sure I can help. This link may give you
some ideas.
http://www.londonfoodfilmfiesta.co.uk/Artmai~1/Mainar~1.htm

answerfinder-ga
Subject: Re: Which FOOD words are also ART words?
From: answerfinder-ga on 27 Jul 2005 08:39 PDT
 
oops! pafalafa has beaten me to it. I should have read the clarification first!
Subject: Re: Which FOOD words are also ART words?
From: czh-ga on 27 Jul 2005 09:23 PDT
 
For inspiration:

http://images.google.com/images?svnum=100&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&q=Arcimboldo&btnG=Search
http://images.google.com/images?q=art+food&hl=en
http://images.google.com/images?q=food+art&hl=en
http://images.google.com/images?svnum=100&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&q=food+painting
http://images.google.com/images?svnum=100&hl=en&lr=&c2coff=1&q=food+still+life
Subject: Re: Which FOOD words are also ART words?
From: myoarin-ga on 27 Jul 2005 10:20 PDT
 
Paf:  Manet.

Sumptious,  delicious, delectible, raw (in the, or uncooked; I'm still
envisioning Paf's picnic)

Or did Paf mean Monet's breakfast paintings  (two I think I remember)

( I just deleted body parts ...)

I think there is a cookbook with recipes from Monet, nicely
illustrated with photos from his house.

Ditto for 

"Der Honigdieb", painting by Lucas Cranach (sr. jr.?), The Honey
Thief, Amor with a honey comb and Venus.

The glass of Wine, Vermeer

Gluttony, H. Bosch and Bruegel

Are we limited to painting or visual arts?

Love for three Oranges, Serge Prokofiev

Rimsky-Korsakov - Le Coq d'Or  

Alfonso's painting, The Feast of the Gods, has always been regarded as
a masterpiece

The Feast of Belshazzar, Rembrandt

The Feast of the Gods (detail) ll BELLINI, Giovanni 

The Wedding Feast in a Barn. Artist: Pieter Bruegel the Younger

Miracle of the Bread and Fish LANFRANCO, Giovanni oil painting

Bread and Eggs, Artist: Paul CézanneHereis anothe source:
http://www.buchhandlung-walther-koenig.de/katalog/l1800/l1800-1221842.htm


And we really haven't started yet, much less on anagrams or other ideas.

Fun question!
Subject: Re: Which FOOD words are also ART words?
From: myoarin-ga on 29 Jul 2005 09:13 PDT
 
Videogaga,
Nice that you want to award someone an answer.

I forgot something:  "ditto for"  Toulouse Lautrec, noted as a cook
among his friends.

On this site you can play with anagrams.

Myoarin

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