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Which day does midnight fall on??
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: parrotperson-ga List Price: $5.00 |
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27 Jul 2005 19:20 PDT
Expires: 26 Aug 2005 19:20 PDT Question ID: 548775 |
I need an interpretation of this sentence: "Applications must be received no later than midnight Central Standard Time on the closing date of the announcement." If the closing date is, say, August 15th, does that mean the application is due by the end of the 14th, or the end of the 15th?? midnight seems to me like it occupies a dividing line between days... |
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Re: Which day does midnight fall on??
Answered By: justaskscott-ga on 27 Jul 2005 20:49 PDT Rated: |
Hello parrotperson, Midnight is the exact moment at which one day ends and the next begins. "Midnight, literally 'the middle of the night', was a time arbitrarily designated to determine the end of a day and the beginning of the next in some, mainly Western, cultures. ... "... Using the 24-hour clock it is fixed at '00:00', though in some circumstances such as train schedules, midnight will be used to end the previous day by using '24:00'." "midnight" Answers.com http://www.answers.com/midnight In light of such ambiguity, your safest course would be either to ensure that the application is received on the earlier day, or to obtain an authoritative clarification from the entity to which the application will be sent. My view is that "no later than midnight ... on the closing date" means the last moment of that date (August 15th, in your example), rather than the first moment of that date. Here is my thinking: - An equivalent to "no later than midnight" is "before midnight." The event should not take place later than midnight; in other words, it should happen before midnight, on the closing date. - An equivalent to "no later than midnight on that date" is "no later than the end of that date." To me, this sounds more natural than "no later than the beginning of that date." - "On the closing date" implies that the closing happens "on" that day. I think it's more likely that the author of that language would view this closing as occurring on the last moment of that day rather than the first moment of that day. Still, for all the logic or argument in the world, the people receiving the application get to decide, and they might disagree. So again, I would err on the safe side if possible. - justaskscott |
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The answer is involved and well worded, but I would have liked more research (it's called Google Research) and less personal opinion. I found the "mostly non-Western" explanation myself in my Google search. I was hoping someone could find more of a definitive answer, perhaps from HR types or a business source. Your opinion makes sense, and it's probably true. It's still driving me slightly insane not to know for sure, and there is no way I can contact the entity to whom I will be applying. |
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Re: Which day does midnight fall on??
From: myoarin-ga on 28 Jul 2005 04:56 PDT |
Perhaps this helps: http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/62674.html http://www.usvisanews.com/articles/memo1177.shtml "We do not know exactly when the President will sign the measure. We do know that he must do so by midnight on December 21, 2000." You ahve asked: "I need an interpretation of this sentence: "Applications must be received no later than midnight ..." In this usage, midnight always refers to the end of the date mentioned. If it was required that something occur by 11 pm (or 23 hrs) on August 15th, you would understand clearly what was meant. "By midnight" just says that it must occur at latest one hour later. |
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Re: Which day does midnight fall on??
From: mikewa-ga on 28 Jul 2005 12:54 PDT |
An equally annoying question: is 12:00 noon a.m or p.m? Strictly it is neither, since by definition it is not before or after noon which is what the terms indicate. |
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Re: Which day does midnight fall on??
From: justaskscott-ga on 28 Jul 2005 13:43 PDT |
Noon is 12:00 PM, while midnight is 12:00 AM. But these questions of AM/PM and midnight/noon are indeed frustrating. "ante meridiem" Answers.com http://www.answers.com/ante-meridiem "noon" Answers.com http://www.answers.com/noon |
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