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Subject:
comparing doctor and lawyer salries
Category: Miscellaneous Asked by: researcher13-ga List Price: $3.00 |
Posted:
28 Jul 2005 19:04 PDT
Expires: 27 Aug 2005 19:04 PDT Question ID: 549227 |
Who has a higher annual salary in the US - surgeons or lawyers? I am not interested in the average or median salaries. I am talking of the people who are at the absolute top of their games - top surgeons or lawyers in top law firms. There are some sites I found which list surgeons above lawyers, but then again this was based on average salaries. I would if possible like figures for top players in each of these professions. Even better would be an explanation for why one profession makes more money than the other (an example would be :- top lawyers make more because they are partners in their firms ... etc. etc.) |
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Re: comparing doctor and lawyer salries
From: myoarin-ga on 29 Jul 2005 04:14 PDT |
This article explains much of what you ask - but not the statistics: http://walterolson.com/articles/medecon1.html Perhaps you did not realize it, but these to professions are related not just by income. There are lawyers who specialize in contingency work (no fixed fee, just a share of the settlement if successful), and many of them concentrate on medical mal-practice suits. The article suggests that these are the highest earning lawyers. And as you suggest, senior partners share in the income of their firms, also a reason mentioned for high income. These cases don't usually bancrupt the surgeon because he has insurance, but expensive, $200,000 premium/year mentioned for Miami neurosurgeons. That cuts into their net income, but of course boosts their fees. Ah, here is a nice site that talks about lawyers' (plaintiffs') earnings: http://www.americanlawyer.com/litigation2004/sweet16.html The first listings on the following site indicate that surgeons can do quite well: http://www.physicianfinders.com/Listings/westernregion.php This one includes the following quotation: http://www.bestpractice.com/html/success.html "Our highest-income single physician is a multi-million dollar surgeon whose patients come to him from all around the world." I am convinced that the best lawyers earn more than the best surgeons, and I hope you are too. Someone maybe chuckling that I couldn't tickle the information out of the Beureau of Labor Statistics site. |
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Re: comparing doctor and lawyer salries
From: khephri-ga on 29 Jul 2005 08:37 PDT |
While the gist of the above comment makes sense, I do not agree that ?The best lawyers make more than the best doctors?. How about instead, "The highest paid lawyers make more than the highest paid doctors". Some of the really high earners that I have come across are not really the best at their profession; they are just really good at selling themselves and they put maximizing their income before everything else. In order to maximize their income, they create a perception that they are the best at their profession, but sometimes perception and reality are very, very different. In contrast, none of the best lawyers or surgeons that I know is a true top-earner. Certainly, if you work as a public defender, DA, or for a non-profit, your income will not match the income of lawyers who win major contingency cases for product liability or medical malpractice. Yes, some of these public service jobs are stepping stones to big-buck firms or public office, but that is not the sole motivation. Surgeons who work for Universities and government hospitals have historically earned much less than their colleagues in private practice, but are they inferior? Without question they are inferior at one thing: they are inferior at maximizing their income. When I go to see a lawyer, I want insightful legal advice about what is best for me. I do not want someone to see me as nothing more than potential billable hours or a fat contingency fee. When I go to see a surgeon, I want someone who has keen clinical insight, has excellent technical skills, and places a high priority on my welfare. I do not want someone who decides what to do based on which treatment will have a higher reimbursement. If personal income were truly the be-all, end-all measure of quality, then Bernie Ebbers, Dennis Kozlowski, and Jeffrey Skilling would still be running WorldCom, Tycho, and Enron. |
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Re: comparing doctor and lawyer salries
From: dmrmv-ga on 29 Jul 2005 12:59 PDT |
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