How/where would I find a dynamicaly updated list of internet search
terms used in various or singular internet search engines, catagorized
or organized by certain parameters such as, but not limited to: click
through rate (CTR), Minimum Bid Amount, Number of Times Used/Input
over a given period of time?

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Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 31 Jul 2005 13:19 PDT

The only thing I know of that comes close (and not all THAT close,
mind you) are the various keyword/search term services made available
at aleksika.com:


http://www.aleksika.com/


Notice that they have onsite tools (available for a fee) that cover
several areas, including one called "Keyword Research":


http://www.aleksika.com/keyword-research/
"Keyword Research is the first step in optimising your website and
pay-per-click campaign. Here you need to know which keywords your
target group is using..."


More specifically, they offer tools to:


Find Keywords

Keyword Collection

Choose Keywords



Their "Keyword Collection" includes:
 
Top Keywords 

Keyword Directory 

Download Keywords 



Take a look at this resource, and let me know if you find these tools
useful in getting you at least part-way towards your goal.

Thanks,

pafalafa-ga

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Clarification of Question by orangeduncan-ga on 31 Jul 2005 14:14 PDT

While the services provided at http://www.aleksika.com/
are somewhat in line with what I am asking for, the following
principal difference makes it rather unuseful:

YOU have to determine the keywords to be researched, either one at a
time or in groups, rather than being able to find keywords
parametrically (i.e. in a database, and sorted by CTR, or any other
parameters of your choosing).

For example, it might be useful to be able to look up all keywords
that have a monthly usage of between 30k and 120k, with a CTR of =>1%,
and a max bid of => $2.00.

I hope this helps to clarify my question. :)
Thank you

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Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 31 Jul 2005 14:21 PDT

Yes, it does clarify things.

Aleksika is a bit more data-rich and flexible than it might first
seem,  For instance, here's a list of Top keywords from 2004:


http://www.aleksika.com/news.html


You can see that they do present some useful data, along with the
search terms themselves (though again, not quite the data you're
seeking).

But the lists are regualry updated and can be downloaded and
manipulated as you see fit, so there is some built-in selection
possible.

If another source turns up, I'll be sure to let you know.

paf

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Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 31 Jul 2005 14:38 PDT

There are also the tools at Wordtracker.  Again, not 100% on target,
but maybe close enough to be useful -- closer, perhaps that Aleksika.

AND they offer a free trial!


http://www.wordtracker.com/advanced-tour-ppc.html


Take a look, and let me know what you think.

paf

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Clarification of Question by orangeduncan-ga on 31 Jul 2005 17:55 PDT

I already knew about the services provided by Wordtracker, as I am a
subscriber. :) Good job finding it, though.

I have analyzed the possibility of cross referencing the 2 services,
as this may prove to be more cost effective than trying to use
Wordtracker alone, and may yeild more relevant results than using
Alesika. This is a possible compromise.

However, I am still wondering: they are offering the same information
(in a more rigid format) as I think I am looking for, is their data
source what I am looking for, and if so, what is it? I would think
this might answer my original question.

If you could find this out, I would appreciate it, although I will
accept what you have done so far as an adequate answer.

Thank you

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Request for Question Clarification by pafalafa-ga on 03 Aug 2005 18:23 PDT

I'm still looking into your question, and in the process, came across
a pretty wild-looking tool that I thought would be of interest....not
a source of statistics, but still, worth a look.


It's called GoogSpy, and it returns a lot of heretofore unavailable
information on who's doing what with Google Adwords:



http://www.googspy.com/




For instance, if you click on "Browse By Search Term" you get a huge
list of terms, starting with the letter "A".  I selected:

Search Terms: 

a christmas carol


which led me to the following (it will make a bit more sense when you
see it yourself):


============

These Companies Pay for a christmas carol as an Adword from Google 


ChristianCinema.com Get "A Christmas Carol" Original 1951 classic by Dickens

Save on "A Christmas Carol" DVD Ad Link 

edHelper.com Christmas Carol Literature unit for a Christmas

Carol. Quizzes, puzzles, review. Ad Link 

eBay.com A Christmas Carol Products and information about

A Christmas Carol. Ad Link 

Movie-Downloads.9clouds.com A Christmas Carol Download A Christmas Carol online.

Burn A Christmas Carol to DVD now! Ad Link 

freegiftworld.com A Christmas Carol Get Charles Dickens's Book Free.

Free shipping. Sign up now. Ad Link 

==========



Alternatively, searching on a company name turns up different sorts of
information.  For instance, a search on [ netscape.com ] leads to:


==========
Netscape.com Ranks in the Top 10 on these Search Terms

1 sslv2 The SSL Protocol 
  1 navigator Netscape.com 
  1 communicator Netscape.com 
  1 web browser 3.0 Netscape.com 
  1 3.04 Netscape Products: Archived Client Products, Versions 3.x 
  1 netscape web browser Netscape.com 
  1 what is a portal site Netscape.com 
  1 server benchmark software Server Performance Benchmarks 
  1 netscape+ Netscape.com 
  1 128 bit version of secure sockets layer The SSL Protocol 
  1 navigator 4.0 Netscape.com 
  1 netscape Client Side State - HTTP Cookies 
  1 netscape's Netscape.com 
  2 web browsers Netscape.com 
[and many many more]
==========



and also shows:

==========
Netscape.com  Pays for these Google Adwords  

betscape browser netscape download netscape 7.0 
install netscape internet filtering software... metscape 
natscape nestcape nestscape 
net zero netescape netsca 
netscap netscape netscape 4.0 download 
netscape 7.0 netscape 7.0 download netscape browser 
netscape navigator netscape web netscape web browser 
netscape+ netscapecommunicator netscapemail 
netscapenavigator netscpae netscpe 
netskape providers tscape 
==========


Let me know what you think.


paf

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Clarification of Question by orangeduncan-ga on 05 Aug 2005 19:14 PDT

Dear pafalafa-ga,

I would like to thank you for all your help. You have found some truly
valuable information for me. :)

This is the first time I have asked a question on this system, and I
would like to pay you the $40 I bid for this.

To be honest, I am not quite sure how to do so. Do you have to place
your answer in summary on the answer portion? Well, whatever you need
to do to initiate this please do. I think you have more than earned
it. :)

Thank you again.

orangeduncan-ga,

I'm glad to hear that your first experience with Google Answers was a
good win, and that the tools I mentioned above were valuable for your
needs.

And as they say on late-night TV....BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE...


I came across one more site that I think is worth checking out.  I'm
not familiar enough with keyword advertising stats to fully appreciate
how useful (or not) this information is, but at the very least,
there's a lot here to explore.

A site called snap.com at:


http://snap.com/


offers a lot of stats on advertising, especially on their "Statistics" page at:


http://snap.com/stats_home.php


There are a lot of options available here beyond the obvious Top
Keyword lists, so be sure to take a good look around, click on lots of
links, and learn what snap.com has to offer.


I trust these tools will be helpful in both expected and unexpected ways.  

Please don't rate this answer, though, until you are fully satisifed
with the results.  If there's anything else I can do for you, just let
me know by posting a Request for Clarification, and I'm at your
service.

All the best,

pafalafa-ga 


search strategy -- this was an odd combination of using existing
bookmarks for sites on [ keywords ] along with new resources found by
perusing newsletters, search sites, and forums.