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Creating a headshot montage with a "stack" of three headshots
Category: Computers > Graphics Asked by: submaniac-ga List Price: $30.00 |
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02 Aug 2005 07:23 PDT
Expires: 01 Sep 2005 07:23 PDT Question ID: 550785 |
Assuming I start with only a digital camera (no photo editing software installed)... ....how would I end up with an outcome that stacks three headshots of different people on top of one another....blend/edit them together...and wind up with "one headshot" that is a representation of how the three people would look as one combined "face"? Please include the format I should use for the output of the original three digital photos, some software titles of the required editing applications, and as much of a "hold my hand" step by step tutorial for how to do this. Assume this is being written for a beginner...because that's what I am. :) :) | |
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Re: Creating a headshot montage with a "stack" of three headshots
From: ryanjblack-ga on 02 Aug 2005 15:02 PDT |
There is not likely to be much out there to assist you. What you are asking for, essentially, is a multi-source morph. I.e. if one nose is fat, and one nose is thin, and one nose is average but bent, you would combine the shape of all 3 and average them out, hopefully ending up with an average-sized nose with a slight bend in it (as 1 out of 3 had the bending). Simply "blending" the photographs will not work, as this will create obvious, multiple frames. Also, the position of the headshots would be required to be compeltely identical for all of the headshots, right down to the level of zoom. In the above scenario, "blending" the photographs would produce a picture where you would see one general face shape but three, each-slightly-transparent noses. A morph is traditionally used to combine the features from two sources. A morph is typically done by creating reference points on two different pictures that are the same: for example, a reference point of the outside corner of the left eye. By mapping the same reference point to each picture, and then repeating this process for the entire "detail" of both photographs, a computer program can blend the two pictures and "warp" them so that the reference points end up at a happy medium. Theoretically, it should be possible to blend multiple photographs as long as they all had the same reference points. That being said, it will be impossible to combine all of the features of a large group of people into one face. If twenty-three people are very fair skinned and four people are very dark skinned, the "combined" montage will look very fair skinned, and you will have captured very little of the essence of the darker skinned people. The same would go for a large nose, a pointy ear, blue eyes, or whatever. The more people are in the photo, the more obvious this "averaging" will be. (If you've ever superimposed colourful photographs, you learn very quickly that combining multiple, complex things just yields bland results). I hope these comments are helpful to you. |
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Re: Creating a headshot montage with a "stack" of three headshots
From: submaniac-ga on 02 Aug 2005 15:57 PDT |
ryanjblack...thank you for telling it like it is. Drat! :( |
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Re: Creating a headshot montage with a "stack" of three headshots
From: ryanjblack-ga on 03 Aug 2005 13:25 PDT |
"ryanjblack...thank you for telling it like it is." Well, I told it like it is... in my opinion ;) There may be some digital photography expert out there who knows better than me! I'd recommend leaving the question open for a while longer and seeing if anyone else has any suggestions. |
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Re: Creating a headshot montage with a "stack" of three headshots
From: ryanjblack-ga on 06 Aug 2005 02:05 PDT |
I've given this some more shot. If you had a small number very similar photographs and access to a free morphing program, here is how you could combine the features of the photographs. Step 1: import first 2 photos from the stack into morphing program using photo1 as a source and photo2 as a source. Step 2: outline the reference points on each photo (left corner of eye, top left side of eye, top of eye, top right side of eye, right corner of eye ... lol there's lots of reference points, this is a looooong step) Step 3: have the morphing program produce the 50% result (i.e., the morph that is 50% between photo 1 and photo 2) Step 4: output that result to a new photograph (this is what i call the "morphed stack") Step 5: import the resulting morphed photograph (the "morphed stack") and the 3rd photo from the stack into the morphing program, using the morphed stack as a source and the 3rd photo as a source. Step 6: if the reference points are preserved from the previous morph, then you only have to create the same reference points for the newly added photo. Otherwise, redo the reference points (Again, a very long step) Step 7: have the morphing program produce the 66% result (i.e., the morph that results when 66% of the morphed stack and 33% of the 3rd photo from the stack is used) Step 5: import the "morphed stack" and the 4th photo from the stack into the morphing program, using the morphed stack as a source and the 4th photo as a source. Step 9: see step 6 Step 10: have the morphing program produce the 75% result (i.e., the morph that results when 75% of the morphed stack and 25% of the 4th photo from the stack is used). You can repeat this as many times as you like. Each time, increase the ratio of the morphed result and decrease the ratio of the photo you are adding to the "morphed stack". Here's how the ratio would work: 2 photos: 1/2 vs 1/2 3 photos: 2/3 vs 1/3 4 photos: 3/4 vs 1/4 5 photos: 4/5 vs 1/5 (i hope you see the patern here ;D) It would be tedious, but with a small stack of photos, a digital camera, and a freeware morphing program, it could likely be done. Cheers, Ryan Black |
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Re: Creating a headshot montage with a "stack" of three headshots
From: submaniac-ga on 06 Aug 2005 04:39 PDT |
ryanjblack...thank you again, sir! Sounds like a scenario where juuuuuuust about the time I have morphed in the 500th photo...the new version of software will be released that does it all in one step. Lol! Hmmm....I think I just embraced a new phrase for the day. "low cost, outsourced labor". :) :) |
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Re: Creating a headshot montage with a "stack" of three headshots
From: landog-ga on 06 Aug 2005 06:08 PDT |
All good ideas. One other method I think is interesting to play around with is Photoshop software or similar. You can layer stacks and stacks of headshots and also tweak each layer for transparacy and add a gazzilion effects to each layer etc etc. Maybe you'll be creating something reallly cool. Success! |
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Re: Creating a headshot montage with a "stack" of three headshots
From: jesilu-ga on 13 Aug 2005 13:11 PDT |
Using Photoshop: You can make each head-shot a layer as suggested, but apply a mask to each image, the mask button is on the bottom of the layers panel, the second one that looks like a box with a with dot in it, you can then "paint" (using the brush) with black and white within the mask to reveal or hide parts of the image, if you press alt when you create the mask(press the mask button) it will fill the mask with black hiding the layer, it normally starts off white. You then have much more control because you can keep the original layer intact and use the brush at what ever opacity you need in order to bring the part of the image that you want in or out. Only use black and white when painting and make sure you are in the mask portion of the layer, it will show a box next to the thumbnail image showing where you have painted on each layer. i have a degree in Photography and digital Imaging and have not heard of something that will "do this for you" im not sure if you were looking to choose the pieces of the faces your self or have a program create it but this is the most nondestructive way i can think of to achieve what you are looking for |
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