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Q: Google website listing ( Answered 1 out of 5 stars,   0 Comments )
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Subject: Google website listing
Category: Computers > Internet
Asked by: hoserjoe-ga
List Price: $20.00
Posted: 15 Aug 2002 19:09 PDT
Expires: 14 Sep 2002 19:09 PDT
Question ID: 55085
Why doesn't "www.aerotraining.com" appear on Google?  It's an old, but
very popular website.
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Subject: Re: Google website listing
Answered By: webadept-ga on 17 Aug 2002 12:37 PDT
Rated:1 out of 5 stars
 
Hi, 

After going over your site, I've discovered at the bottom of the page
you are using a large keyword tag inside a comment area. This is
called "Spaming" and most search engines don't like it, in fact the
major ones will black list you for things like this.

Also, your robots.txt file keeps most of the site from being indexed.
Much more than you probably realize.

If you are using a software package such as Web Position Gold, or
other similar ones that check and report your status on the Google
Search engine, or other engines, then this is probably the major cause
of your lack of listing status.

Your keywords are huge, but the Google-bot pays very little attention
to those, especially if those words aren't used as text somewhere on
the page, or on some page close by. Other search engines like to use
them, but only if they are relevant to the page and the site, and
yours don't appear to be from a web-bots point of view.

The only engines I found you listed on are Overture and Fast, but
could only find you listed there by using your websites name
aerotraining.com. Using keywords from your site to try to find you
didn't produce very good results.

Basically your site isn't very web-bot friendly and is probably on a
few blacklists. Below are some links that will help you get your site
cleaned up, re-submitted and back on the search engines.

Search Engine Guide: Orbidex: Safe and Smart Site Submissions 
http://www.searchengineguide.com/orbidex/2001/0824_orb1.html 
 
Google Search Engine Webmaster page  
://www.google.com/webmasters/  
  
Google Support Discussion Group.   
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&group=google.public.support
  
Search Engine Forum at JimWorld  
http://www.searchengineforums.com/bin/Ultimate.cgi  
 
This last is a really good place to grab a cup of coffee and stay for
a while. It will help you a lot in the future if you decide to get
professional help and will help you do most of the work you need to do
yourself.

webadept-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by hoserjoe-ga on 29 Sep 2002 01:37 PDT
I replied to the answer, but clarification might help.  The answer was
jargon, and not useful.  For instance: "Basically your site isn't very
web-bot friendly and is probably on a few blacklists." doesn't help me
figure it out at all.

Also: "This is called "Spaming" and most search engines don't like it"
is simply not correct.  Spam, as far as I know, is unwanted email.  If
I'm not correct, then you're using jargon.

Clarification of Answer by webadept-ga on 29 Sep 2002 09:47 PDT
Hi, 

That's interesting, because you took the comments out that had all
those keywords in there (webpage spamming), you took the /html_gif out
of your robots.txt and it looks like you followed most of the other
advice found on those webpages. Instead of not ranking at all, you now
have a PageRank of 5 of 10, which for a site like yours is very good.
I'm not really sure what part of the answer you didn't understand, but
whatever it is, you obviously don't need to dwell on it.

Next time it would be good to ask for clarification before you rate
the question. Most of the Researchers here will follow up with you
until you have the answer that you are looking for.

webadept-ga

Request for Answer Clarification by hoserjoe-ga on 07 Oct 2002 13:01 PDT
The changes made to the website were as a result of hiring another
technician to analyze the first Google response.  I still feel that
it's inappropriate for answers to be phrased as jargon to the extent
that only insiders can understand the information.  I'm also really
annoyed that Google works this way.  I don't feel that I've received
my money's worth for this query because only Google insiders can
understand the response - and it's me that's paying for the
information.  What happens the next time that Google needs a little
extra cash?  Do we go through this same jargon-filled exercise?  FWIW,
"Google Ads" had the same cash-extracting M/O, and was equally
irritating.
hoserjoe-ga rated this answer:1 out of 5 stars
The answer sounded competent, but it had little useful content.  It
referred to comments on our page as "spamming"; however that's not
what I know as spam (unsolicited email). Comments are comments - not
spam. It also said that the robots.txt file blocked access to much of
the site, which is clearly not so; it blocks access to technical
directories only.

In addition, the answer referred to webmaster help-sites that speak in
jargon, using obscure terms like "cloaking", "spamming", and "doors",
leaving us no further ahead.

I realize that sometimes we have to spend money to find answers, but
this sort of help is not very useful.  Is the intention to have us
keep spending more and more money for little specks of information?

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