I AM WORKING ON THE 'QUINT-ESSENTIAL QUEST' PUZZLE IN THE SEPTEMBER
2005 ISSUE OF 'WORLD OF PUZZLES' MAGAZINE.IT IS A WORD-FIND PUZZLE
WHERE YOU MUST LOCATE 50 WORDS,BUT THERE IS NO WORD LIST TO GO OFF
OF.AFTER YOU HAVE FOUND (CIRCLED) ALL 50 WORDS ,A MESSAGE IS LEFT
BEHIND THAT IS SUPPOSE TO 'TELL' YOU WHICH OF THE 5 WORDS (OUT OF THE
50) IS THE SOLUTION TO THE PUZZLE.I FOUND THAT THE FINAL MESSAGE OR
CLUE TO THE ANSWER IS-' TENTH GROUP IS THE WORDS THAT DON'T FIT IN THE
OTHER NINE'.I HAVE ALL 50 WORDS CIRCLED AND THE 50 GO INTO 10 SEPERATE
'CATERGORIES' THAT HAVE 5 RELATED WORDS EACH.ONE PROBLEM IS THAT I
HAVE 2 WORDS(JAROMIR & CHARLES) THAT ARE EXTRA & DON'T FIT IN ANY OF
THE 10 RELATED CATERGORIES.I DO HAVE THE FINAL MESSGE THAT IS LEFT BY
CIRCLING ALL 50 WORDS (A CLUE OR HINT OR SOLUTION TO THE PUZZLE),WHICH
READS---'TENTH CATERGORY IS THE WORDS THAT DON'T FIT IN THE OTHER
NINE'. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS MEANS,AS THE FINAL ANSWER IS 5 WORDS
THAT ARE FOUND BY THIS CLUE !!I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE 'TENTH GROUP' OR
'FIT IN' OR 'THE OTHER NINE' PLEASE HELP !! |
Request for Question Clarification by
rainbow-ga
on
04 Aug 2005 23:37 PDT
If possible, could you please list the 50 words you circled and put
them into the separate categories you have. This may help us better
understand the clue.
Best regards,
Rainbow
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Clarification of Question by
rondanjr-ga
on
05 Aug 2005 20:07 PDT
THANKS FOR GETTING BACK WITH ME ! I WILL LIST THE CATERGORIES IN
PARENETHES AND THEN I WILL LIST THE 5 WORDS (10 CATERGORIES) THAT I
CIRCLED.THE TWO WORDS I CIRCLED BUT WOULDN'T FIT IN ANY OF THE 10
CATERGORIES WERE 'JAROMIR' & 'CHARLES',THEREFORE I HAD TO LIST TWO
WORDS IN TWO DIFFERENT CATERGORIES.1)(PRESIDENT MIDDLE
NAMES)-GAMALIEL,WILSON,DAVID,BIRCHARD,ABRAM.2)(INTERNATIONAL
AIRPORTS)-KIMPO,GALILEO,NARITA,MIDWAY,SCHIPHOL.3)(LORD OF THE RINGS
CHARACTERS)- CELEBORN,EOMER,ISILDUR,GIMLI,ELROND.4)(JABBERWOCKY POEM
WORDS)-GIMBLE,TUM TUM,MIMSY,CALLAY,VORPAL.5)(TOM CRUISE MOVIE LAST
NAMES)-KOVIC,MACKEY,ALGREN,GOODSEN,FLANAGAN.6)(AUSTRAILAN
WORDS)-GALAH,BILLY,WOWSER,LOLLIE,BOOMER.7)('CRIME' WORDS)-FLIM
FLAM,DODGE,RIP-OFF,STING,SET UP.8)(WEIRD
ANTOMYNS)-STRANGE,FUNNY,PECULIAR,CURIOUS,AMUSING.9)(BRAINY
ANTONYMNS)-BRIGHT,WITTY,SMART,CLEVER,AMUSING.10)(PAIN
ANTONYMS)-IRRITATE,GRATE,CHAFE,NETTLE,STING.I HOPE THIS HELPS,AS I
REALLY WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON WITH THIS PUZZLE!!!!! THANK
YOU.
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Request for Question Clarification by
rainbow-ga
on
06 Aug 2005 00:07 PDT
Were the categories preset or did you decide what they should be?
Rainbow~
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Request for Question Clarification by
rainbow-ga
on
06 Aug 2005 00:41 PDT
After going through the list and still not understanding what the hint
would imply, I think the best thing would be if you are able to scan
the puzzle page and upload it somewhere.
Let me know if this is possible.
Also take note of pinkfreud's comment. The words in the last three
categories are NOT antonyms.
Best regards,
Rainbow
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Clarification of Question by
rondanjr-ga
on
06 Aug 2005 19:02 PDT
I KNOW I SHOULD HAVE USED THE WORD SYNONYM,INSTEAD OF ANTONYM(MY
MISTAKE).AS FAR AS THE 10 CATERGORIES GO (I MENTIONED THIS IN THE
ORIGINAL QUESTION ),THAT THERE WAS NOT A WORD LIST,SO I HAD TO COME UP
WITH THE 10 CATERGORIES AFTER I WAS ABLE TO FIND ALL 50 WORDS (CHARLES
& JAROMIR DO NOT FIT IN ANY CATERGORY) AND THEN EACH OF THE 10
CATERGORIES HAVE 5 RELATED WORDS.I USED THE THE WORDS AMUSING &
STING(THE WORD 'SMART' INSTEAD ?)TWICE AS THEY FIT IN TWO DIFFERENT
CATERGORIES & I HAD TO FILL IN ALL 10 CATERGORIES PER THE DIRECTIONS !
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Clarification of Question by
rondanjr-ga
on
06 Aug 2005 20:05 PDT
HI ,RAINBOW-GA,I WILL NEED AN E-MAIL ADDRESS TO SEND YOU THE COPY THAT
I HAVE ON A DISC.I CAN THEN UPLOAD AND 'MAIL' IT TO YOU.THANKS AGAIN
!!!!
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Request for Question Clarification by
rainbow-ga
on
07 Aug 2005 00:44 PDT
Hi rondanjr,
Thank you for your clarification.
Researchers are not permitted to have outside contact with customers.
You can upload the puzzle to a free hosting site, then post the URL
here.
Here's one for you to use:
http://www.yousendit.com/
Let me know as soon as you have uploaded it.
Best regards,
Rainbow
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Clarification of Question by
rondanjr-ga
on
07 Aug 2005 05:38 PDT
http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=26I533JAFUFUV17PROQKXAS6I3
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Clarification of Question by
rondanjr-ga
on
07 Aug 2005 05:50 PDT
RAINBOW-GA,PLESAE OPEN UP THE FILE DATED AUGUST 7,2005 @ 05:38 PDT
TIME TO SEE A FILLED OUT COPY OF THE 'QUINTESSENTIAL-QUEST' PUZZLE.I
CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING ELSE I CAN DO AS YOU HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME
INFORMATION I DO !!! THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS.
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Request for Question Clarification by
pafalafa-ga
on
07 Aug 2005 06:42 PDT
I hope you and rainbow-ga don't mind, but I had a look at the
puzzle...I've never tried these before, and they're tougher than I
imagined.
I think the problem you're having is that you (logically enough)
started off by trying to fit the 50 words into TEN categories. What
you need to do it try and re-arrange them into NINE categories, since
the tenth category will be the five 'left over' words.
The instructions to the puzzle strongly imply that one category will
be something akin to "Mens' Names" (though more specific). Perhaps
sports first names:
BILLY
DAVID
JAROMIR
CHARLES
BOOMER
I tried working through the other terms, but frankly, my brain doesn't
work that way very well. So you'll have to do some experimenting.
The LOTR, Jabberwhocky and Tom Cruise categories seem pretty solid --
I wouldn't mess with those, But the others are more loosey-goosey, so
you might want to shuffle them a bit and see what you come up with.
And of course, no using a word in more than one category!
Let us know how things work out (and if you get the answer, at least
post us a hint!).
Good luck.
pafalafa-ga
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Request for Question Clarification by
rainbow-ga
on
07 Aug 2005 07:06 PDT
Thank you for the upload.
I downloaded the puzzle and printed it out. I will let you know of my
progress as soon as possible.
Best regards,
Rainbow
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Request for Question Clarification by
rainbow-ga
on
07 Aug 2005 13:19 PDT
Hi rondanjr,
This puzzle is harder than I thought! Ok, just to keep you up-to-date
on my progress...I haven't gotten very far. :)
Seriously, the first mistake I can see are the words "sting" and
"amusing" being used twice in the list. This is the reason why you
have two words left over, which are "Charles" and "Jaromir".
I'll let you know as soon as I figure out more...if I can :)
Best wishes,
Rainbow
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Clarification of Question by
rondanjr-ga
on
13 Aug 2005 18:02 PDT
HI,I DID FIND OUT SOMETHING ABOUT THE 'QUINT-ESSENTIAL' QUEST PUZZLE
THAT I NEEDED AN ANSWER FOR.I FOUND AN OLD ISSUE OF THE MAGAZINE THAT
CONTAINED A 'QUINT-ESSENTIAL' QUEST PUZZLE,BUT OF COURSE THIS ONE WAS
SIMPLE.THE RULES OF THE OLD PUZZLE WERE TO FIND ALL 50 WORDS ,WITHOUT
A WORD LIST ,AND THEY FIT INTO 10 CATERGORIES OF 5 RELATED WORDS EACH
(JUST LIKE THIS PUZZLE),BUT ALL THE LETTERS LEFT OVER,INSTEAD OF BEING
A HINT TO THE FINAL ANSWER(5 RELATED WORDS),THE OLD PUZZLE WORDS LEFT
OVER WER ACTUALLY THE 5 WORDS THAT WERE THE ANSWER TO THE PUZZLE
!!!MEANING THAT THE OLD PUZZLE ACTUALLY HAD AN ELEVENTH CATERGORY AND
IT WAS THE ANSWER !!ON THIS PUZZLE I NEED AN ANSWER FOR THE WORDS
LEFT OVER IS ACTUALLY A HINT TO THE FINAL ANSWER;IT BEING 'TENTH GROUP
IS THE WORDS THAT DON'T FIT IN THE OTHER NINE '.SO THIS MEANS TO ME IS
THAT IN THIS PUZZLE THAT THERE ARE ACTUALLY ONLY NINE CTERGORIES THAT
HAVE 5 RELATED WORDS & WHEN THE ANSWER TO THE PUZZLE IS THE TENTH
CATERGORY OR THE 5 WORDS LEFT OVER WHEN YOU KNOW YOU HAVE 9
CATERGORIES OF 5 RELATED WORDS EACH.I STILL CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT
BECAUSE I HAVE THE WORDS 'CHARLES & 'JAROMIR' LEFT OVER AND I CAN'T
COME UP WITH THE LAST 3 WORDS THAT FIT WITH THESE TO FOR THE LAST
(TENTH) CATERGORY, WITHOUT 'DESTROYING' THE OTHER NINE CATERGORIES!!!!
EVERY TIME I TRY TO FIT WORDS IN THE TENTH CATERGORY (THE ANSWER
),BUT THEN I DON'T HAVE 9 RELATED CATERGORIES.I FOUND OUT THAT
'CHARLES' & 'JAROMIR' WERE PRINCES OR DUKES(ROYALTY) & SOMEBODY HAD
MENTIONED 'SPORTS FIRST NAMES',BUT AGAIN THERE WEREN'T 9 CATERGORIES
LEFT OVER WITH 5 RELATED WORDS !!! IF ANY BODY CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO
GET 'RID' OF 'CHARLES & 'JAROMIR' WITHOUT MESSING UP THE OTHER NINE
CATERGORIES ,PLEASE HELP AS I AM SWIMMING IN A SEA OF CONFUSION !
THANK YOU,FOR ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Request for Question Clarification by
rainbow-ga
on
15 Aug 2005 04:20 PDT
Hi rondanjr,
As I mentioned in my previous clarification, the reason you have two
words "left over" (Charles and Jaromir) is because you used two other
words TWICE (sting and amusing).
You listed AMUSING here:
8)(WEIRD ANTOMYNS)-STRANGE,FUNNY,PECULIAR,CURIOUS,AMUSING
and here:
9)(BRAINY ANTONYMNS)-BRIGHT,WITTY,SMART,CLEVER,AMUSING
You listed STING here:
7)('CRIME' WORDS)-FLIM FLAM,DODGE,RIP-OFF,STING,SET UP
and here:
10)(PAIN ANTONYMS)-IRRITATE,GRATE,CHAFE,NETTLE,STING
I'll let you know of any progress I have.
Best regards,
Rainbow
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Clarification of Question by
rondanjr-ga
on
15 Aug 2005 13:35 PDT
TO RAINBOW:I HAVE SINCE CHANGED MY CATERGORIES SO THAT I AM ONLY USING
EACH 'CIRCLED' WORD ONCE.I DID SEND OUT A CLARIFICATION NOTE STATING
THAT I NOW REALIZE THAT I NEED TO FILL 9 CATERGORIES WITH 5
(DIFFERENT) WORDS AS THE TENTH CATERGORY IS THE SOLUTION TO THE
CONTEST AND IT STATES 'THAT THE TENTH CATERGORY IS WORDS THAT DON'T
FIT IN THE OTHER NINE '.BUT THE PUZZLE RULES STATE THAT THERE ARE 10
CATERGORIES WITH 5 RELATED WORDS AND THUS THE PROBLEM IS THAT I CAN'T
GET THE WORDS 'CHARLES' & 'JAROMIR' ALONG WITH 3 OTHER WORDS TO FILL
THE TENTH CATERGORY AS EVRY TIME I DO IT DESTROYS THE OTHER 9
CATERGORIES !!!!!!!!!!!!!I CAN'T TAKE- 1)TOM CRUISE MOVIE LAST NAMES
2)L.O.T.R. NAMES 3)INTERNATIONAL AIRPORTS 4)PRESIDENT MIDDLE NAMES
5)AUSSIE SLANG WORDS 6)JABBERWOCKY POEM WORDS 7)'CRIME' WORDS
(FLIMFLAM,RIPOFF,ETC.) 8)IRRITATE SYNONYMS 9)CATERGORY COULD BE
'BRIGHT' SYNONYMS OR 'PECULIAR' SYNONYMS AND BREAK THEM APART BECAUSE
THE 5 WORDS ARE RELATED AND BESIDES WHAT COULD BE THE LAST 3 WORDS TO
GO ALONG WITH THE 10th CATERGORY WITHOUT HAVING 9 OTHER CATERGORIES 5
RELATED WORDS ? PLUS THE RULES STATE THAT THERE ARE 10 RELATED
CATERGORIES.
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Request for Question Clarification by
nenna-ga
on
15 Aug 2005 14:59 PDT
Would it be possible to host that puzzle again? The link you provided
has expired and I LOVE puzzles. :) Thank you!
Nenna-GA
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Clarification of Question by
rondanjr-ga
on
16 Aug 2005 17:24 PDT
I HAVE ACTUALLY E-MAILED THE MAGAZINE & THEY HAVE TOLD ME
(TODAY-816-2005),THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED 'MANY' CORRECT
ANSWERS TO THE PUZZLE !! THEY MADE THE COMMENT THAT I MAY BE MISSING
SOME WORDS,BUT I HAVE ALREADY HAVE COME UP WITH 50 !
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Clarification of Question by
rondanjr-ga
on
18 Aug 2005 16:19 PDT
http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=10L49RZE9NZSZZGOUQE6MMJ99L
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Clarification of Question by
rondanjr-ga
on
19 Aug 2005 18:43 PDT
http://s14.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3OH1CKN31BV1904FK7R8NHO93M (new
copy of puzzle-old copy expired !!)
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