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Q: Live in UK and Debts in France ( No Answer,   2 Comments )
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Subject: Live in UK and Debts in France
Category: Relationships and Society > Law
Asked by: miketong-ga
List Price: $12.00
Posted: 08 Aug 2005 15:05 PDT
Expires: 07 Sep 2005 15:05 PDT
Question ID: 553235
I live in the UK but a whilst on holiday in France I hired a car from
a French Car hire company. I drove the car in to Italy and managed to
get it impounded by the police for a driving offence.  The Italian
police will not release the car for three months and the French hire
company want to charge me for 3 months car hire, I don't want to pay
them, what can they do if i'm in the UK, can I return to France?

Request for Question Clarification by scriptor-ga on 08 Aug 2005 15:38 PDT
But why don't you want to pay them? They obviously have a right to get
paid since they gave you their car and, due to what ever you did wrong
in Italy, can't return it in time. All sounds legal and correct to me,
unless there is some detail you did not mention. By the way, if you
don't pay them you are guilty of fraud. The French company can then
easily ask the British authorities for assistance in such a case,
thanks to European prosecution conventions.

Scriptor

Clarification of Question by miketong-ga on 11 Aug 2005 03:08 PDT
I don't want to pay them because it's gonna cost £2000 - now I
appreciate that this is not their fault and I should not have
committed a motoring offence in Italy but I can't  afford it. The
offense was to drive along a road in the wrong direction (stupid i
know but was a mistake). The Italian police have said they will
definately not release the car until the three months is up and there
will also be a fine for this but not said how much yet (between £1000
and £4000).

I feel a little agreeved that the French car hire company won't argue
to the Italian police it is they who are being deprived of the car, I
feel this is because they are getting 3 months of rental charges -
good deal for them don't you think?

What I want to do is hide from this French debt but need to know what
the French company can do, i.e.'European prosecution conventions',
most importantly will I get a bad credit rating in the UK?
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Comments  
Subject: Re: Live in UK and Debts in France
From: myoarin-ga on 09 Aug 2005 08:22 PDT
 
Hmmm?  I wonder if the rental company can get earlier release of the
vehicle, seeing as it belongs to them and impounding has no affect on
the driver, beyond the rental charge, of course.  Impounding is to
keep the driver off the road, in principle, but this is more
effectively achieved by holding the driver's license.  Did you have to
relinquish your license for the offense?

If the company had managed to retreave the car ....  but how would one
be able to discover that?
Subject: Re: Live in UK and Debts in France
From: nicolewolff-ga on 21 Nov 2005 18:57 PST
 
The question here isn't if but when, where and how much.  If you hired
the car, you almost certainly were obliged to provide a credit card,
and, on that basis alone (irrespective of your actual
debt/balance/limit/charges) you should be insured for theft, damage,
etc.  THEY (the credit card company) are insured, so the question for
you would be too read the fine print for making a claim(s); and, even
if it strikes you as a bit of stretch, decide how you want to claim it
(i.e. stolen), request and complete the paper work and send it in.  At
the very least, you'll buy yourself some time, and shield yourself
from any financial liability (while the claim is investigated).  Time
is what your going need in dealing with Italy, though it's best to
prepare for worst case scenerio.  Did you research their traffic laws
and impoundment jurisdictions?  Is it compatible with the European
Union? Although, arguing with the Italians would appear to be an
exercise in futility at this point.  Let's assume you'll never see
that car again.  On the hand, try and talk to the French.  You might
be surprised to find them very cooperative on your behalf.  They don't
care who pays them or how they get paid, just so long as they get
paid; and it's not uncommon or out of place for you to ask and receive
assistance or confirmation from them in making a claim.  It's a
standard business/civil  practice in France, they're quite used to
this sort of thing.

Otherwise, eventually this liability could catch up with you, and it
could escalate..though when and to what extent is anyone's guess.

Good Luck to you

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