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Q: michigan drivers license suspended;moving to Florida, need to work ( Answered 4 out of 5 stars,   3 Comments )
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Subject: michigan drivers license suspended;moving to Florida, need to work
Category: Relationships and Society > Government
Asked by: groovebear456-ga
List Price: $10.00
Posted: 08 Aug 2005 17:24 PDT
Expires: 07 Sep 2005 17:24 PDT
Question ID: 553298
I currently reside in Michigan and will be moving back shortly to
Florida. My current MI drivers license is suspended for traffic
violations, which I am currently making payments towards and will
still be after the date of my move, because of the amount of the fines
(Drivers Responsibility Fees). Since my license will not be reinstated
for a few months after my move to FL, and at one time I had a valid
Florida license, is there any way to reinstate this license, or to
apply for a "hardship license", which I have seen information on
Florida's Department of Department of Highway Safety and Motor
Vehicles website, so that I may be able to drive to work?
Answer  
Subject: Re: michigan drivers license suspended;moving to Florida, need to work
Answered By: tutuzdad-ga on 08 Aug 2005 18:24 PDT
Rated:4 out of 5 stars
 
Dear groovebear456-ga;

Thank you for allowing me an opportunity to answer your interesting question.

New residents obtaining a new Florida license must SURRENDER their
other VALID driver license. Florida DMV will know that you have an
INVALID Michigan license when they run your name through NCIC (I?ll
talk more about that in a moment). If you do not have your Michigan
license (i.e., the license was seized by the court, or it was
otherwise rendered invalid) you will not have a license to surrender.
You certainly wouldn?t want to lie about what happened to it either ?
should you get the brilliant idea to make up some story about how your
dog ate it or something - because if you do YOU WILL BE CAUGHT. The
consequences of that would be bad indeed (The application also asks
about driver history and other licenses, that, if concealed or
fraudulently answered, is considered a third degree felony which may
result in arrest.)
 
FLORIDA DRIVERS
http://www.floridadrivers.com/drivers_license/obtaining_your_florida_drivers_license.php

The fact that you may have no Michigan license in your possession to
surrender to Florida is a serious obstacle but not nearly your biggest
problem. You see, under Florida law the DMV will flat-out refuse to
issue a license to anyone whose license is suspended or revoked in ANY
other jurisdiction. The Florida statute on this is clear:

?Title XXIII MOTOR VEHICLES 
Chapter 322 DRIVERS' LICENSES

322.05(5)  Persons not to be licensed.--The department may not issue a
license to any person whose license has been suspended, during such
suspension, nor to any person whose license has been revoked, until
the expiration of the period of revocation imposed under the
provisions of this chapter.?
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0322/SEC05.HTM&Title=->2004->Ch0322->Section%2005#0322.05

Will the state of Florida know that you have a suspended license in Michigan? 

YOU BET!. Virtually every adult US citizen (and this is especially
true with those who have held licenses and/or been convicted of even
the most minor crimes like traffic offenses) is listed in a central
national database called NCIC (which stands for NATIONAL CRIME
INFORMATION CENTER). Authorities will not rely on your application
alone. They will also check to see if you are wanted anywhere in the
US or abroad. When they perform this check at the time that you apply
for your Florida license your name, date of birth, social security
number (and/or Michigan driver?s license number) or other personal
identifiers (such as an FBI control number or SID [State
Identification Number] ) will be researched through NCIC. This will
quickly reveal your problem in Michigan. Trust me, I know ? I have
been a certified NCIC operator for more than 20 years.

The fact is that while a temporary permit (hardship, restricted
license, or whatever other provision they might have) may be an option
for Florida residents who have valid Florida licenses, you (being a
non-resident, with an invalid driver license) will not qualify for
such an exemption. Florida?s Department of Highway Safety and Motor
Vehicles web site doesn?t beat around the bush where this is concerned
and says in no uncertain terms to make sure there is absolutely no
misunderstanding [emphasis mine here]:

?PERSONS WHO HAVE HAD THEIR LICENSES SUSPENDED IN ANOTHER STATE, are
addicted to drugs or alcohol, or have mental or physical impairments
preventing safe vehicular operation, CANNOT OBTAIN A LICENSE.?

DEPARTMENT OF HIGHWAY SAFETY AND MOTOR VEHICLES DRIVER LICENSURE
http://www.oppaga.state.fl.us/profiles/6062/

In short, that is a resoundingly clear "NO". Sorry for the bad news. I
just hope you?re not the kinda guy who kills the messenger because of
the message.

At any rate, I hope you find that my research exceeds your
expectations ? at least in an informative sense even if the answer is
a bit disappointing (can?t help that, you know. Wish I could.). If you
have any questions about my research please post a clarification
request prior to rating the answer. Otherwise, I welcome your rating
and your final comments and I look forward to working with you again
in the near future. Thank you for bringing your question to us.

Best regards;
Tutuzdad ? Google Answers Researcher


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groovebear456-ga rated this answer:4 out of 5 stars
Question answered what would have taken me a couple of days if not
weeks to find specific information to, in a matter of hours. I thank
the researcher for being so throughough. However the researcher might
have interpreted my question a little wrongly, in thinking I was
looking for a way to "scam the system". But their answer was great.

Jessica, Michigan.

Comments  
Subject: Re: michigan drivers license suspended;moving to Florida, need to work
From: mjgetalife-ga on 11 Feb 2006 12:58 PST
 
I agree with Jessica...this person sounds slightly belligerent, as if
EVERYONE is out to scam a drivers license...get a life
tutuzdad-ga...the woman asked a valid question regarding a legal way
to obtain a Florida drivers license. She did not ask to be accused of
otherwise, such as possibly considering lying, fraud, etc.  Are you
psycho?  Or maybe you are a resident "jail-house" attorney with all
the answers? Or maybe you are a very over-zealous DMV know it all?, or
maybe you just have no life?...why be so assumptive about one's
motives?
Subject: Re: michigan drivers license suspended;moving to Florida, need to work
From: tutuzdad-ga on 11 Feb 2006 13:22 PST
 
There's nothing accusatory in my answer. I just like to cover all the
bases. Thank you though for your clearly troubled opinion. I've been
known to over-react to things before myself.

tutuzdad-ga
Subject: Re: michigan drivers license suspended;moving to Florida, need to work
From: mother911-ga on 11 Feb 2006 13:55 PST
 
I didn't see anything accusatory, if anything I think tutzdad took the
time to cover all bases and explain not only the other ways to go
about getting a license, but the negative impact of any attempts to
circumvent the Florida DMV laws. Being honest and informed is not
accusatory.

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