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Spectral Radius Inequality
Category: Science > Math Asked by: dooogle-ga List Price: $10.00 |
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09 Aug 2005 01:46 PDT
Expires: 08 Sep 2005 01:46 PDT Question ID: 553451 |
Dear MathTalk, Suppose M is a matrix. Can we claim that the spectral radius of |M| <= the spectral radius of M? (|M| is the matrix obtained by taking the absolute values of the corresponding entries in M) Does it make any difference if we suppose that M has real as opposed to complex entries? Many thanks, Dooogle |
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Re: Spectral Radius Inequality
From: hakobason-ga on 09 Aug 2005 11:10 PDT |
Actually, the reverse inequality is true. You can apply Gelfand's formula which says the spectral radius of a (complex) valued matrix is defined by: rho(M) = lim_{k -> inf} || M^k ||^(1/k) where || M || is *any* matrix norm. This, combined with the fact that |M^k| <= |M|^k, can be used to show rho(M) <= rho(|M|). A good reference for these kinds of questions is the book Matrix Analysis by Horn & Johnson. |
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Re: Spectral Radius Inequality
From: mathtalk-ga on 09 Aug 2005 11:43 PDT |
Just so. Although the spectral radius of M and "|M|" must agree in the (trivial) 1x1 case, a simple 2x2 "counterexample" to dooogle-ga's conjecture (using only real entries) is: / 1 1 \ M = | | \ 1 -1 / The spectral radius of M is sqrt(2), but if we take the absolute value of its entries, we get spectral radius 2. regards, mathtalk-ga |
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Re: Spectral Radius Inequality
From: dooogle-ga on 22 Aug 2005 08:27 PDT |
Many thanks for your help. Much appreciated. Dooogle |
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