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Subject:
CHANGING JOBS WHILE UNDER A GREEN CARD PROCESS
Category: Reference, Education and News > General Reference Asked by: bagroso-ga List Price: $20.00 |
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10 Aug 2005 19:27 PDT
Expires: 09 Sep 2005 19:27 PDT Question ID: 554281 |
I am a H1-B holder currently under a green card process. I already received the Labor certification approval (Form ETA 9089) and the I-140 petition (green card petition) is already filed but not approved as of yet. Another company offered me a job, what happens if I change jobs right now? In the middle of the process?(for the exactly same job description of the one applied in my labor cert) Do I need to RESTART all the green card process all over again? from the beginning? OR can I move to another company and leave and wait for the result of the current application? |
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Re: CHANGING JOBS WHILE UNDER A GREEN CARD PROCESS
Answered By: hummer-ga on 11 Aug 2005 04:19 PDT Rated: |
Hi bagroso, Unfortunately, if your I-140 is still pending, then the application will not remain valid if you change employers. The I-140 must be approved and your I-485 must be unadjudicated for at least 180 days before your I-140 would remain valid if you change employment. "The purpose of this memorandum is to provide field offices with guidance on processing Form I-485, Application to Register Permanent Residence or Adjust Status, when the beneficiary of an approved Form I-140, Petition for Immigrant Worker, is eligible to change employers under §106(c) of AC21." "If the Form I-140 (?immigrant petition?) has been approved and the Form I-485 (?adjustment application?) has been filed and remained unadjudicated for 180 days or more (as measured from the Form I-485 receipt date), the approved Form I-140 will remain valid even if the alien changes jobs or employers as long as the new offer of employment is in the same or similar occupation.1 If the Form I-485 has been pending for less than 180 days, then the approved Form I-140 shall not remain valid with respect to a new offer of employment." http://uscis.gov/graphics/lawsregs/handbook/I140_AC21_8403.pdf New Interpretation On Job Flexibility During Adjustment Of Status by Cyrus D. Mehta "Section 106(c) of the American Competitiveness in the 21st Century Act (AC21) introduced a very novel concept. It gave some degree of mobility to the noncitizen employee who was being sponsored for permanent residence by a US employer when an adjustment of status application (Form I-485) took 180 days or more to process. When an adjustment application is pending for more than 180 days, Section 106(c) allows such a noncitizen employee to either change jobs within the same sponsoring entity or to move to a new employer who offers a same or similar job." "...Section 106(c) now keeps intact the validity of this labor certification if the noncitizen changes jobs as long as the "new job is in the same or similar occupational classification as the job for which the petition is filed" and Form I-485 is pending for 180 days or more." http://www.ilw.com/lawyers/articles/2003,0905-mehta.shtm I'm sorry for the bad news. If you have any questions, please post a clarification request and wait for me to respond before closing/rating my answer. Thank you, hummer Google Search Terms Used: uscis I-140 petition approved I-485 new job Section 106(c) uscis labor certification approved i-140 pending change jobs green card applications labor certificate h1-b | |
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very good answer. thanks so much, very helpful |
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Subject:
Re: CHANGING JOBS WHILE UNDER A GREEN CARD PROCESS
From: dprk007-ga on 10 Aug 2005 19:44 PDT |
I am curious why you wish to jeopardise your Green Card process just for a change of job? And your current employer who have sponsored you will not be too happy that you wish to jump ship when they have done you such a great favour. DPRK007 |
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Re: CHANGING JOBS WHILE UNDER A GREEN CARD PROCESS
From: hummer-ga on 11 Aug 2005 18:24 PDT |
You're welcome, bagroso, and thank you too. I'm glad to hear that I was able to help - good luck with your application! Sincerely, hummer |
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Re: CHANGING JOBS WHILE UNDER A GREEN CARD PROCESS
From: hummer-ga on 31 Aug 2005 07:09 PDT |
Hi bagroso, I noticed that you've closed your subsequent question. I did spend some time on it and rather than have my research go to waste, I thought I would post it here. 1- changing employee now will result in CANCELLATION of what I received so far, basically I would need to re-start the PERM process all over again? It would not be a good idea to change employers before your I-140 is approved. It is important to USCIS that you have an intention to work for the employer who has filed the petition. Although it is possible to change employers after the I-140 is approved, it would not remain valid if you changed employers. By far, the best thing to do would be to file your I-485 now along with a copy of the Service Center's I-797 receipt (you can do that before the I-140 is approved), wait for the I-140 approval, and wait 180 days from the I-485 receipt date before changing employers. In this way, you'll have your new employer substituted into your pending I-485 and no new application for labor certification or a new I-140 will be required. "If the Form I-140 (?immigrant petition?) has been approved and the Form I-485 (?adjustment application?) has been filed and remained unadjudicated for 180 days or more (as measured from the Form I-485 receipt date), the approved Form I-140 will remain valid even if the alien changes jobs or employers as long as the new offer of employment is in the same or similar occupation.1 If the Form I-485 has been pending for less erhen the approved Form I-140 shall not remain valid with respect to a new offer of employment." http://uscis.gov/graphics/lawsregs/handbook/I140_AC21_8403.pdf To use AC21 portability, should I wait beyond 180 days for I-140 approval? "Attorney Murthy : A person should wait a minimum of 180 days for the I-485 to be pending, and the I-140 should have been approved before being able to enjoy AC21 portability. The rule is not 180 days after I-140 approval, but merely for the I-140 to be approved and the I-485 to be pending for at least 180 days. Attorney Murthy : It is not safe to leave the sponsoring employer without the I-140 approval notice. Also, it is not wise to work for one?s self or as an independent contractor on the EAD since, if the USCIS issues an RFE on the I-485, it is best to show proof of "same or similar" job with an employer, as required under AC21." http://www.murthy.com/chatlogs/chat1124_P.html 2- I understand I need to switch the H1-B sponsor WHILE still employed from the current sposnor? Yes, you are supposed to maintain your status with the old employer. "2b. What if I have a gap in H-1B employment? Often, when applying for a "change of employer" H-1B, CIS will request copies of the individuals most recent pay statements with the previous employer to show that the individual maintained his/her status. Officially, workers are out of status immediately upon termination or resignation. While no official grace period exists, H-1B change of employer petitions are commonly approved when filed within a reasonable period time (2-4 weeks) from the last date of employment. ILG strongly recommends filing before leaving the previous position, if possible. The oft-quoted "10 day rule" only applies to H-1B visa holders who fulfilled their entire period of sponsorship, and are given 10 days to leave the United States upon the expiration of their visas." http://www.immigrationgroup.com/CM/Custom/TOCImmigrationFAQs.asp Q10: Who is eligible to use the H1B "portability" provisions? A10: The portability provisions allow a nonimmigrant alien previously issued an H-1B visa or otherwise accorded H-1B status to begin working for a new H-1B employer as soon as the new employer files an H-1B petition for the alien. Previously, aliens in this situation had to await INS approval before commencing the new H-1B employment. These provisions apply to H-1B petitions filed "before, on, or after" the date of enactment, so all aliens who meet this definition can begin using the portability provisions. http://uscis.gov/graphics/publicaffairs/questsans/H1BChang.htm D. H-1B Portability Rules. A foreign national previously granted H-1B status has the right to commence new employment upon the filing of a new H-1B Petition rather than having to await its approval. The underlying rationale here is that once a foreign national has been granted H-1B benefits, the likelihood of subsequent H-1B approvals is so great as to obviate the need to postpone the commencement of the new employment owing to CIS processing delays. The Memorandum clarifies the following points: * An H-1B foreign national can port to a new employer during the time in which the initial employer?s extension remains pending. * An H-1B foreign national can port to successive employers as long as all H-1B Petitions are timely and in good faith filed. http://www.ingber-aronson.com/newsletter/2005-06-pf.htm 3-How can I renew my H1-B visa (expiring in jan 2006) Do I need to wait for my new employee to start a new PERM proccess so I can go to my country and renew my visa? I think you should call your local immigration office and ask them, giving them all of your particulars. There are too many little details that could be overlooked here. I currently have an H-1B change of status, extension or transfer pending. Can I travel outside the USA? This is generally not a good idea, although in some case it is supposed to be possible. Don't expect BCBP officers to know this, though! "If you leave the US while such an application is pending - and this includes even trips to Canada or Mexico - then you will probably find that you need to wait outside the USA for the approval notice. In most cases, you will also need a new H-1B visa from a consulate. Of course, if you already have an H-1B visa that hasn't expired, you can use that. This happens frequently in transfer cases, but rarely in extension cases, and almost never in cases of change of status." http://www.kkeane.com/h1b-faq.shtml I am an H-1B holder and I started working for my new employer under the new portability provisions. Can I leave the United States and re-enter before my H-1B change of employer petition has been approved? "Yes, but you will need a valid H-1B visa, a copy of the I-797 Filing Receipt showing that the petition was filed and a letter from your new employer stating that you are currently working for the new company, in order to re-enter the United States." http://www.greencardlawyers.com/workvisas/H-1Bvisas/H-1BHolderFAQs.html#Change%20of%20Employers%20and%20H-1B%20Portability Wishing you well, bagroso, hummer |
Subject:
Re: CHANGING JOBS WHILE UNDER A GREEN CARD PROCESS
From: lujimez-ga on 21 Sep 2005 10:44 PDT |
DPRK007: Bagroso is very right in having this kind of questions. I am myself in the same position. I am on H1B and at the beggining of the labor certification process. I understand his question because I receive a lot of job offers. It is confusing because they offer better conditions. I recently moved to another state and now I dont like the city where I live and I have to wait until the process is over to move back. We dont want to jeopardize the process and this is why we ask. Very good answer hummer, it helped me too. Besides you always should look for your best interests, companies can lay you off without any consideration. |
Subject:
Re: CHANGING JOBS WHILE UNDER A GREEN CARD PROCESS
From: dprk007-ga on 24 Sep 2005 14:45 PDT |
dear lujimez I do not critize anyone for asking a question especially if it is in their own interests. However I will take this oppurtunity of questioning both your motivation and that of the questioner. Neither the employer has to accept you as an employee, nor more to the point is the United States Government under any obligation to grant you immigrant status( Green Card). You say that you receive a lot of job offers and you do not like the city you are living in. So do you really want me to feel sorry for you?. With that type of attitude I as an employer would certainly not be interested in employing you. And if I were an immigration officier for the US government, I would certainly not be very interested in having you come to the US As a citizen. You may of course be very competant at what you do. You also come across as totally self centered and self interested. Do not get me wrong. On many issues I am no fan of employers. On this one however I am very much on the side of the employer. They are doing you a great favour by facilitating your immigration process into the United States and unless you ended up a vey bad offer then I think you should at leat stike it out till your immigration process has completed. And if you are getting so many potential offers how come you did not take more time to secure the best position before starting with your current employer. (I am assuming before you started the work related to your immigration, you had the option of choosing potential employees) Finally you must have a very good skill set to get so many offers of employment. I am assuming your skill set has nothing to do with IT were many thousands of skilled IT US citizens cannot get jobs in this field. Regards DPRK007 |
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