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Non-psychological measures of pain
Category: Health Asked by: angelf-ga List Price: $35.00 |
Posted:
11 Aug 2005 06:11 PDT
Expires: 10 Sep 2005 06:11 PDT Question ID: 554421 |
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Re: Non-psychological measures of pain
From: pafalafa-ga on 11 Aug 2005 06:52 PDT |
This is a well-known conundrum. Pain is one of the "realest" things we can experience, yet it has totally eluded any sort of physical measurement. The only way I know of to 'measure' pain is to ask a person "On a scale of 1 to 10..." sorts of questions, or to gauge intensity by facial expressions, etc. This is one reason why worker compensation cases and injury lawsuits are so tricky -- a guy shows up in court grimacing something fierce, wearing a neck brace, but the question remains: Is he really in pain? He's the only one who knows for sure! |
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Re: Non-psychological measures of pain
From: linezolid-ga on 11 Aug 2005 17:56 PDT |
Funnily enough, there is a validated clinical instrument in wide-spread use today that allows doctors and allied health professionals both to determine pain levels and to assess response to treatment. It's known as a the 1-10 pain scale. The doctor or nurse asks you how your pain is on a 1-10 scale, or shows you (if you are a child, or do not speak English well) a series of cartoons of heads from smiling to crying (think of smiley-faces with various states of emotions). Perhaps surprisingly, this tool has been validated in clinical trials to have very good interobserver reliability and repeatability. In other words, people give consistent answers regardless of who asks them and when. Likewise, there is repeatability in use of the scale to determine effectiveness of pain control. What the scale lacks is any consistency between patients: there is no way to compare one person's 6 out of 10 to another person's 6 out of 10. This points to the very subjective nature of pain itself: pain is situational as well as individual. There are many anecdotes about people not having significant pain from a significant injury until they become aware of the significance of their injury. Soldiers with severe battlefield injuries are well known to describe their pain as not being severe, whereas civilians with similar injuries tend to suffer agonizing pain. Thus in answer to your question: we are infinitely far away from any technological device that could detect pain: likely this is impossible. And we already have a decent (if imperfect) instrument for communicating with health-care professionals the degree of our pain. Cheers. |
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Re: Non-psychological measures of pain
From: pinkfreud-ga on 12 Aug 2005 10:53 PDT |
Several years ago I read an account of a South American dissident who was tortured while hooked up to a polygraph. Apparently his torturers believed that by observing the polygraph results, they could get an indication not only of the possible truthfulness or deceit in the answers, but also of the amount of pain the victim was feeling, and they fine-tuned their grim procedures accordingly. While it seems plausible, I don't know of any scientific research that backs up the theory that a polygraph (or similar device) offers any useful measure of pain. |
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Re: Non-psychological measures of pain
From: myoarin-ga on 29 Aug 2005 18:16 PDT |
Linezolid is refering to this: http://painsourcebook.ca/docs/pps92.html "It shows a close linear relationship with visual analog pain scales across the age range 4 through 16 years." "Visual analog pain scale" is the expression (as I learned here a few days ago from a question asking who originated the term). Here is one site on the subject: http://www.rasch.org/rmt/rmt122s.htm As Linezolid explained, it is a relative measure, fairly accurate for that individual, but not objective in a more general sense. Myoarin |
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Re: Non-psychological measures of pain
From: seneca21-ga on 02 Sep 2005 11:39 PDT |
Read THE BODY IN PAIN for a detailed discussion of this topic. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0195049969/qid=1125686274/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-5783129-4087969?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 |
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